Xref: utzoo soc.men:3057 sci.bio:999 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!uwmcsd1!ig!agate!pasteur!ames!ucsd!sdcc6!calmasd!jnp From: jnp@calmasd.GE.COM (John Pantone) Newsgroups: soc.men,sci.bio Subject: Re: Sexual selection Message-ID: <2686@calmasd.GE.COM> Date: 17 Mar 88 21:44:19 GMT References: <1566@mmm.UUCP> <3138@arthur.cs.purdue.edu> <1164@microsoft.UUCP> <2402@saturn.ucsc.edu> Organization: G.E.- Calma R&D, San Diego, CA Lines: 36 > So dimorphism MAY be a result of direct female choice for big males > but PROBABLY is more likely a result of the games males play with > each other. > > ----------- > Susan Nordmark > Internet: kevin@chromo.UCSC.edu > UUCP: ...ucbvax!ucscc!chromo.kevin Santa Cruz, CA I would guess this is at least partly true, but my feeling is that the marked dimorphism in humans is the result of physical adaptation to social roles. In most primitive societies (pre-agricultural) women are gatherers and men are hunters (and to a lesser extent women "hide" with the children and men go out to confront the "enemy"). The women care for the children and gather food (the most reliable food source) and men hunt (less reliable but greater quantities when they are successful). The body forms of present day humans still reflect this adaptation rather well, men are relatively strong and "brawny", but tend toward lower endurance, the women are less muscular but tend to be more able to carry out low-level activity for far longer than men. Actually this endurance thing is extremely interesting in its own right. There are really only 2 animals on earth which hunt by out-enduring (running down) their prey - humans and canines. This form of hunting is called "Cursorial" (runners) and relys on the exceptional endurance of humans and dogs compared to virtually any other animal. So - the difference between the endurance of men versus women is only relative. Please - no flames - I am well aware of the fact that this is simply an overall tendency - there are plenty of "big" women and "small" men but they are exceptions. -- These opinions are solely mine and in no way reflect those of my employer. John M. Pantone @ GE/Calma R&D, 9805 Scranton Rd., San Diego, CA 92121 ...{ucbvax|decvax}!sdcsvax!calmasd!jnp jnp@calmasd.GE.COM GEnie: J.PANTONE