Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:2571 comp.sys.atari.st:8475 comp.misc:2136 Path: utzoo!yunexus!gen1!peter From: peter@gen1.UUCP (Peter CAMILLERI) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.misc Subject: Re: Atari fights back ! (so should you!) Keywords: ALLOCATIONS Message-ID: <337@gen1.UUCP> Date: 22 Mar 88 02:24:05 GMT Article-I.D.: gen1.337 Posted: Mon Mar 21 21:24:05 1988 References: <1988Mar17.195328.12277@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> <1127@ektools.UUCP> Reply-To: peter@gen1.UUCP (Peter CAMILLERI) Organization: gen1 - York University, Petrie Bldg, Downsview, Ontario CANADA Lines: 56 In article <1127@ektools.UUCP> john@ektools.UUCP (John H. Hall) writes: >In article <1988Mar17.195328.12277@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> lharris@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Leonard Harris) writes: >> >>Sound familiar? Have you tried to get 256K rams recently. In toronto, quoted >>prices (for micron) are $8.00 with 6-8 week delivery. Places with stock want >>over $12.00 and usually demand a certified cheque within 2 hours of the order. >>(we're talking minimum 2K pieces.) I was paying $2.50 each 1 year ago. >>Since Japan stopped shipping (note: not dumping) ram to north america, the > ????????????? >>US manufactures have been gouging the public. I believe the only US >>DRAM manufactures of note are Motorola and Micron Tech. Neither can meet ... >> ... >>Wasn't it these same companies that forced congress to stop japanese DRAM >>imports saying it would cripple the US high teck markets? So to "save" >>these two companies from financial ruin, all technology that uses DRAMs >>is being held ransom by the US semiconductor industry. >> ... >>Enough said. Canada is pretty impotent when it comes to things like this so >>its up to you in the US to put pressure on washington to change things. >>I hope this happens soon! > >This makes no sense at all to me. Canada is an independent nation, >and the US Congress has no authority to impose trade restrictions >on all of "North America", > > >Don't blame Uncle Sam for this one. >-- Well, lets look at what is ACTUALLY going on here. Not too long ago, several highly influential corporate and government groups in the U.S. became convinced that Japanese semiconductor companies were dumping thier ware, amung them DRAMs, at below cost. Massive tarrifs were threatened. The Japanese government, fearing a terrible trade war, agreed to "recomend" production and export qoutas to certain countries. Namely, the U.S., Canada, and most of Europe. The chip makers given the choice of selling $2.00 256k drams or $25 1M drams chose to use thier allocation on the more profitable parts. And there you have it. Soaring dram prices, shortages, and the U.S. dictating world wide dram availability. The japanese? well I can almost here them laughing, all the way to the bank. ps. the Europeans were furious! And I don't think they're going to take it any more, but then they have Siemens, already in production of 256k and 1M devices. As for us crazy canooks? We're S.O.L. pps. T.I. is the "other" US dram vendor, Motorola imports dies from the "J" country. I have no affiliation with any company mentioned, I just wish I had stockpiled 256k drams 6 months ago :-) -- Peter Camilleri UUCP: ...!mnetor!yunexus!gen1!peter ...utzoo!/