Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att-cb!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!arches!max From: max@arches.uucp (Max Hauser) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Old fart's umbrage (was Re: I need a serial ...) Summary: "Old" TTL indeed Message-ID: <1882@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu> Date: 26 Mar 88 09:48:13 GMT References: <1120@ssc.UUCP> Sender: news@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu Reply-To: max@eros.UUCP (Max Hauser) Organization: UC Berkeley Lines: 19 In article <1120@ssc.UUCP> markz@ssc.UUCP (Mark Zenier) writes: > >... the Fairchild 9368, 9369, 9370 (old! TTL) ... I BEG your pardon. The 9300 series are at least MSI, therefore hardly "old." The older members of Fairchild's CCSL (tm) (two points for remembering what that stood for) TTL-DTL families are the 9000 (not 9300) series, small-scale integration (SSI). No, we cannot begin to talk about truly "old" TTL unless we reach at least to the Texas Instruments 5300/7300 series (that's 3, not 4) with vertical-PNP input devices (the 5400/7400 came later, of course); or conceivably the Sylvania SUHL I and II families, though those may be as recent as 1970 and therefore more or less modern. A purple plague on these short-sighted notions of history ... Max Hauser / max@eros.berkeley.edu / ...{!decvax}!ucbvax!eros!max