Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga:16977 comp.sys.atari.st:8723 comp.sys.ibm.pc:13909 comp.sys.mac:14604 sci.electronics:2650 comp.arch:4159 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!amdahl!esf00 From: esf00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Elliott S. Frank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac,sci.electronics,comp.arch Subject: Re: GATT declares U.S. - Japan chip pact illegal Message-ID: <25965@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> Date: 31 Mar 88 00:07:20 GMT References: <2441@unicus.UUCP> <1259@hubcap.UUCP> Reply-To: esf00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Elliott S. Frank) Organization: The Beige Building Full of Bright Engineers, Inc. Lines: 42 Followup-To:comp.misc,soc.politics,talk.bizarre In article <1259@hubcap.UUCP> rchampe@hubcap.UUCP (Richard Champeaux) writes: >In article <2441@unicus.UUCP>, craig@unicus.UUCP (Craig D. Hubley) writes: >> >> The price-fixing deal that the U.S. forced on Japan to keep its own chip >> manufacturers (TI and Micron) in business, that has forced chip prices to >> four times their level (here, at least!) of ten months ago, has been >> declared illegal by GATT, the General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs, >> the international body governing world trade. The gist of it is that >> the pact has forced chip prices up, and supplies down, in Europe and Canada. > Japanese and other asian chip producers can currently produce chips at >prices significantly less than US producers, and US producers are having a >hard time competing. ... In my opinion, I think that the fact that the asian >countries have a much cheaper labor force is a significant factor. US >producers obviously can't just cut their employees salaries in half, so some >would say that they should get out. > > Also I seem to remember reading in NewsWeek that last spring, Japanese >companies were accused of dumping chips on the US market at prices lower >than it cost the companies to produce them. You seem to have slept through Economics 101, unlike the Japanese chip manufacturers. One, the labor content in manufacturing a chip is very close to zero. Two, the development costs to produce a chip are astronomical (ask Intel how many buildings full of engineers it takes to produce something as successful as the '386!). Three, the cost of a new chip line is now > $100 million, reducing the ease of entry. Classical oligopoly theory says that you should price at your *variable* cost of production. (Silicon, chemicals, and electricity!) This will give you maximum market share. THEN you can recover your sunk costs. The Japanese just did what we told them to do in school. If you don't like the results, do something about the economics. >>>Followups have been directed to a more appropriate forum. -- Elliott Frank ...!{hplabs,ames,sun}!amdahl!esf00 (408) 746-6384 or ....!{bnrmtv,drivax,hoptoad}!amdahl!esf00 [the above opinions are strictly mine, if anyone's.] [the above signature may or may not be repeated, depending upon some inscrutable property of the mailer-of-the-week.]