Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!agate!ig!uwmcsd1!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!markh From: markh@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark William Hopkins) Newsgroups: sci.misc Subject: Re: Omni-Americans Message-ID: <5259@uwmcsd1.UUCP> Date: 18 Mar 88 22:13:22 GMT References: <5017@uwmcsd1.UUCP> <2790@gryphon.CTS.COM> <1221@uop.edu> <5143@uwmcsd1.UUCP> <434@prlb2.UUCP> Sender: daemon@uwmcsd1.UUCP Reply-To: markh@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark William Hopkins) Organization: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Lines: 94 Summary: Omni-Science (pun! pun!) In article <434@prlb2.UUCP> ronse@prlb2.UUCP (Christian Ronse) writes: This is almost even fun watching stuffed shirts getting their feathers ruffled ... Enjoy it. *In article <5143@uwmcsd1.UUCP>, markh@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark William *Hopkins) writes: ... ** The only distinction between much science fiction and science fact is the ** distinction between past and future. * *This shows that the depth of this guy's ``science'' is at the same level as *that of cheap paperback novels. Cheap shot from cheap minds. : *We are no more in the Renaissance, where Pic de la Mirandole could know *everything in every scientific subject. If one wants to have a deep knowledge, *it must be in a restricted field. Not true. In fact, it is very much the other way around. If one wants to fully master a field then one must also have deep background in other related fields. *Just avoiding specialization is laziness, Just specializing in only one field is lazyness if we are to accept your argument. *cultivating superficiality, knowing very few things on everything. Ditto. *Overspecialization is bad too, The "over-" is redundant. *one should combine a deep knowledge in a specialized field ... ... in a **variety** of fields ... *Specialists have the right to be angered when ignorants pretend to know their *field better. Read: Specialists have a right to arrogance when their work is challenged by people outside their fields. That is, they have a right to an enclave mentality. This is effectively what you have just said. * Real science is hard work, ... Read: Real arithmetic is performing 1000 digit multiplications by hand because one does not want to be "lazy". Real science is novelty followed up by perserverence in sticking it out to its conclusion and to its details. But NEVER forget that the whole process is driven by novelty and the desire to know. Real science is fun, that which some would call "hard work" is actually hard and INTENSE fun. One could spend DECADES at it, but this detracts none from the point. ** ** That's why I think Omni is a sort of Trojan Horse for the marching morons. ** ** Then I must be the first of the bunch, which is very strange since I'm known ** to be highly gifted in many fields with knowledge that is both broad and ** deep. * *How modest he is! Real talented people don't have to boast about their gifts. *Their achievements speak for themselves. ... and how envious you are! One has the right to be honest about themselves without feeling shame for doing so, especially when one's talent is a product of a long committment. I am who I am and I will make no qualms about saying so. *And then this guy continues in further postings his propaganda for *Velikovsky... Maybe when you grow up so that you come to learn how to read English better, then you'll come to realise that I am actually neutral in regard to V. *And I don't want to hear about the relationship of astrology to the obsevation *of seasonal cycles, etc ... Okay, I'm sorry. I did not mean to make you cry. * *Next time someone tries to promote pseudo-science in sci.misc, he should first *give his scientific credentials. "Next time someone tries to breathe, he should first prove he/she is human." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: This disclaimer is completely invalid.