Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!julian!deepthot!macros From: macros@deepthot.UUCP (R.) Newsgroups: sci.misc Subject: Re: Science IS a religion. Keywords: gods etc. Message-ID: <1122@deepthot.UUCP> Date: 24 Mar 88 18:18:06 GMT References: <73600008@uiucdcsp> <5201@uwmcsd1.UUCP> <2867@gryphon.CTS.COM> Reply-To: macros@deepthot.UUCP (R.) Distribution: na Organization: UWO CS, London Canada Lines: 27 Posted: Thu Mar 24 13:18:06 1988 Ed Kaulakis writes (in article 2867@gryphon.CTS.COM): "The God of Science differs from all others in favoring the intelligent, well-informed, and skeptical. For them she performs miracles. All other gods seem to avoid these people for their demonstrations." This is very curious. I don't know which gods you are refering to, but those of which I am most familiar as those of the ancient Greek Pantheon and the above statement does NOT fit them as a group. Apollo, for example was the god of music, art, and divination (etc); these certainly involve intelligence (the ability to learn and EXPRESS that learning) and well-informativeness (a requirement of MASTERY), and skepicism is essential in ANY endeavour where KNOWLEDGE is at stake. Admittedly, one has to believe in the efficacy of one's tools (divination for example), but this is decidedly of equal importance in science. The CRITERION of efficacy is at work in both spheres, though the problem of unfalsifyabilty is more pronouned in those related to deities, but only because there is the additional factor of randomness introduced through the personality of the god. This makes their task more difficult, but NOT unworkable. Science too has its limitations, for example, our laws relating pressure, volume and temperature are statistical, they tell you very little about INDIVIDUAL constituent entities. Science also enforces a certain way of viewing the world (i.e. mechanistically) and this is as much of a piece of dogma as any rite. Raymond J. Tigg