Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!watdragon!violet!wphughes From: wphughes@violet.waterloo.edu (William Hughes) Newsgroups: sci.misc Subject: Re: Bias on IQ tests Summary: IQ tests are not meaningless Message-ID: <6041@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: 28 Mar 88 22:16:30 GMT References: <153reneerb@byuvax.bitnet> <20779@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <3933@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <3943@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <4087@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Sender: daemon@watdragon.waterloo.edu Reply-To: wphughes@violet.waterloo.edu (William Hughes) Organization: U of Waterloo Lines: 41 In article <4087@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> tada@athena.mit.edu (Michael Zehr) writes: >Well, I once had an analyst tell me that he and a lot of other psychologists >believed that the score you get on an IQ test has about as much to do with >how well you succeed at life (college, and other things that are supposed >to require intelligence, in particular) as the length of [insert favorite >euphimism for male sex organ here]. > >Furthermore, results from IQ tests can change redically from year to year, >so that makes them even more suspect. The new popular mythos, that IQ test are meaningless, is almost as inaccurate as the old popular mythos, that IQ tests are a single, almost perfect, measure of innate intelligence. Despite the beliefs of your analyst, IQ correlates quite highly with scholastic success. The correlations with more general success are not as marked but still quite significant. So, whatever the IQ score is, it is clearly of some interest. True scores do change, and sometimes radically, but on the average not enough to invalidate the use of the instrument. Test/retest correlations have been done (the researchers in this field are not all idiots!) and are relatively high. However, it is true that the inaccuracies of the test make its use for individual evaluation highly problematic (to say the least). Its use as a research tool by those who understand its strengths and limitations is entirely justified. I very much like Craig Werner's benchmark analogy. Check out some of the copious literature on the subject if you are interested. (Be careful some of it is crap!) For a very good, readable, well balanced review of intelligence testing see "Inteligence: nature, determinants and consequences" by E. B. Brodie and N. Brodie, Academic Press, 1976. It should be noted that in "Mismeasure of Man" Gould does not argue that IQ tests are meaningless. He does argue that they have been radically overinterpreted by many scientists in an effort to perpetuate stongly held biases. He also argues that the tests are not in themselves sufficient to establish the hypothesis that there is a single entity called "generalized intelligence" which can be measured. It is a very good book, but it is not the whole story on intelligence testing nor does Gould claim that it is. -William Hughes