Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!uwvax!rutgers!princeton!mind!eliot From: eliot@mind.UUCP (Eliot Handelman) Newsgroups: sci.psychology Subject: Re: Hi-Q societies Message-ID: <2039@mind.UUCP> Date: 29 Mar 88 04:05:03 GMT References: <7743@apple.Apple.Com-> <2038@mind.UUCP> Reply-To: eliot@mind.UUCP (Eliot Handelman) Organization: Bad Sounding Music, Inc Lines: 31 In article clong@topaz.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes: ->In article <2038@mind.UUCP>, Eliot Handelman cryptically writes: ->>In article , Chris Long writes: ->>>I would love to discuss the problems that intelligent/gifted/talented people ->>>have in a constructive manner. Some of my keenest interests lie ->>>in: how do we educate such people? What can we do for them? ->>Try to make us buckle under the weight of resentment. We tend to arrive at ->>unpredictable conclusions about the nature of freedom. ->What does this mean? Are you trying to say that people aren't ->different, and that special treatment (accelerated classes, etc.) ->given to the (let's use the word "motivated" from now on, as the word ->"gifted" implies that all normal children are not born with roughly ->the same mental capabilities, a touchy subject) motivated is not ->right? Or is this some vague allusion to the freedom/equality problem? When a thing becomes aware of its limitations, intellectual or whatever, this thing, a man, say, may motivate himself to extend himself beyond them, but the displacement of his understanding and the action that he may choose to bring about varies directly with the intensity of the light that he can cast on his own freedom of movement, intellectual or whatever. Maybe that light is a fire held out against those limitations that is kindled when they are first felt. And it all might happen in a private, uncommunicable methodology, that you are presuming to teach. Whereas inventing it may be all that I really care about. Think about sexual courtship and how much energy you might expend in figuring it out, if you happen to care that much about that. Don't consider self-help manuals for writing GSATS. I was exempted from mine.