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From: vu0112@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Emotion
Message-ID: <972@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu>
Date: 20 Mar 88 02:48:34 GMT
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Reply-To: vu0112@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn)
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Keywords: emotion drives physiology consciousness

In article <355@thirdi.UUCP> sarge@thirdi.UUCP (Sarge Gerbode) writes:
>In article <962@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> vu0112@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu
>(Cliff Joslyn) writes:
>>I disagree, and assert that I can have unconscious or at least
>>subconscious emotions (not denying that emotion is frequently (usually?)
>>associated with self-awareness).  For example, when I slip on the
>>stairs, I get a surge of adrenalin, and my emotional state instantly
>>changes to one of fear and exhiliration.
>
>I guess to believe in "unconscious emotion", one would have to look upon
>emotion as a physiological state, of which one could be conscious or
>unconscious.  

Perhaps I used a term laxly.  The original poster had said that one
needed to be *self* aware about one's emotions.  I will agree that while
I must always be *aware* of my emotions in order for them to exist at
all, that I need not be self-aware, although that state is common.  My
example is evidence.

Now, the argument depends on you stance on consciousness: can I be
conscious (aware) of somthing without being self-conscious (self-aware)?
 This is also the KK thesis: if I know something, do I know I know it?

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