Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!ukma!david From: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: hayes 9600 vs. trailblazer Message-ID: <8835@e.ms.uky.edu> Date: 6 Apr 88 17:21:58 GMT References: <791@spdcc.COM> Reply-To: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) Distribution: na Organization: U of Kentucky, Mathematical Sciences Lines: 63 In article <791@spdcc.COM> eli@spdcc.UUCP (Steve Elias) writes: [asking for a comparison of the hayes 9600 baud modem and a trailblazer ... I have direct experience with the trailblazer and no other high speed modems (other than that 9600 baud short haul modem we use for bitnet) ] >i understand that the telebit has uucp protocols and others built in... >and that the telebit is possibly much cheaper, especially with the >special usenet deal... Yes it does have lots of protocols built in. A cute feature ... I'm not sure that it's truly needed, that they couldn't solve the same problem by making it more "two way" in how it works. I'm not sure about prices. The trailblazer lists at $1300 or so ($650 with the special deal). I seem to remember seeing prices for other 9600 baud modems around $1000 (list) but don't remember who from. Also, the Hayes ad in Data Communications doesn't give a price -- and calling 1-800-635-1225 didn't give me a price but they did promise to send some literature... Remember though when comparing these modems that the trailblazer is in a different class from these 9600 baud modems. The trailblazer will get up to 18Kbaud (on VERY good phone lines) and will vary it's speed down to whatever it can do depending on conditions. (Rick reported 8kbaud throughput with Chile (I think)). The other companies are claiming 19Kbaud throughput with their 9600 baud modems but they're using MNP class 5 to do this. The trailblazer does this class of throughput (I personally only ever saw 15Kbaud from my phone at home) as a natural consequence, and can use Lempel Ziv compression for a little bit more throughput. >i've been told that the hayes 9600 standard is 'more standard'... >i will be buying someone's 9600 baud modem sometime soon -- any >opinions appreciated... yeah, their modems do follow the "V" standards. The ad is also talking about being able to interoperate with some of the big name network standards like X.25 or SNA. I don't know 'bout you but I don't have X.25 access in my appartment, nor do I have an IBM mainframe there. For work purposes X.25 is potentially useful but SNA is not -- while our computing center is IBM oriented, they aren't going to be putting up SNA. Granted those protocols may become more important in the future ... Also I'm sure that Telebit would be able to put those protocols into their modem as well. In exactly the way that they've put some of these other protocols into the modem. Also Telebit is working on having their protocol accepted as a standard. Being accepted as a standard will either mean that they make the protocol public domain, or they have a lenient liscensing policy. They have 2-5 other companies liscensing the protocol from them. And they are showing great capability at improving the modem as they put new firmware versions into the field and get customer response. >thanks... Anytime -- <---- David Herron -- The E-Mail guy <---- or: {rutgers,uunet,cbosgd}!ukma!david, david@UKMA.BITNET <---- <---- I don't have a Blue bone in my body!