Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!purdue!tlh From: tlh@cs.purdue.EDU (Thomas L. Hausmann) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: What is CS? (Was re First languages) Message-ID: <3813@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Date: 11 Apr 88 13:53:08 GMT References: <3684@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> <568@abcom.ATT.COM> <643@imagine.PAWL.RPI.EDU> Sender: news@cs.purdue.EDU Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University Lines: 37 Summary: A rebuttal? In article <643@imagine.PAWL.RPI.EDU>, jefu@pawl17.pawl.rpi.edu (Jeffrey Putnam) writes: > In article <4871@ecsvax.UUCP> hes@ecsvax.UUCP (Henry Schaffer) writes: > (among other stuff relating to my proposal that programming be taught > to all incoming freshmen) > > We might get into some controversy over what is a "real" programming > >language - Is an object oriented programming language a "real" one - > I think an object oriented programming language like CLOS (is that > what Common Loops mutated to?) with an interface to a window system > where graphics can be done (X or NeWS by preference) would be close > to ideal. As a language intended to introduce programming to (the unwashed masses ;-)) I mean all incoming Freshman? First of all, not everyone NEEDS to program and secondly I think such a course should use a mor conventional language. > ... As i said before, i think graphics would be > a good place to start as it does make things fun - of course it is > expensive as you need a good graphics system - but it is also quite > interesting and you can go a long way with it. ... What kind of graphics are you thinking about? I doubt that a lot of departments would want to lay ot a lot of cash in equipment expenses to teach a service course. Also, how good of a graphics system are you thinking about? > jeff putnam > jefu@pawl.rpi.edu -or- jeff_putnam%rpitsmts@itsgw.rpi.edu -Tom .^.^. Tom Hausmann . O O . tlh@mordred.cs.purdue.edu ( ARPA ) . v . ...!purdue!tlh ( UUCP ) / | | \ ./ \. "Whooo do ya think you're foolin' " ______mm.mm_____ \_/