Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!well!ewhac From: ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) Newsgroups: comp.graphics Subject: Re: 3D for cheap! Message-ID: <5682@well.UUCP> Date: 12 Apr 88 22:34:43 GMT References: <1038@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP> Reply-To: ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) Organization: MTV (Music TeleVision): Mind rot a specialty. Lines: 35 Keywords: 3D graphics in integer math Summary: I, Robot is a hack. In article <1038@ssc-bee.ssc-vax.UUCP> chas@ssc-vax.UUCP (Chas Boyd) writes: > There was an arcade machine called "I Robot" Copyright Atari 1984 > (4 YEARS ago) that had full 3D graphics: perspective, hidden line > shaded polygon fill, 3D rotations and real-time animation of data bases > involving well over two hundred polygons or 500 vertices. [ ... ] > It could not have cost much over $3000 to produce, so WHY isn't this > technology available now? Was it all custom bit slice? Is it a lost art? I own one of those monsters. I bought on the premise that I would dive inside and re-program the sucker to play _Starfighter_. To this end, I managed to get in contact with the game's designer at Atari Coin-Op. It turns out the 3D system is based on an AMD bit-slice setup, with nine bits of resolution (just enough for 512 pixels across). He pulled every trick known to man, and a few more besides, to get that thing to perform the way it did. It is nowhere near to being a general 3D polygon manipulator. The controlling CPU is a 6809 running at 1.5 MHz. My conversation with the designer went something like this: Me: "Hi. I'd like to get some programming information on _I, Robot_." Him: "You're kidding, right?" "No. I wanna re-program it." "No, you don't." "....Yes I do." "No, you don't. I designed that thing; I *know* what's in there. You don't want to mess with it. It's just too ugly." I'd still like to get in there and muck around with it. I have a 6809 assembler rarin' to go...... _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape ihnp4!pacbell -\ \_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: dual ---> !{well,unicom}!ewhac O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack") "Work FOR? I don't work FOR anybody! I'm just having fun." -- The Doctor