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From: cetron@utah-cs.UUCP (Edward J Cetron)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DECUS asked us to put this here...
Message-ID: <5415@utah-cs.UUCP>
Date: 16 Apr 88 03:54:08 GMT
References: <95rrk@byuvax.bitnet>
Reply-To: cetron@cs.utah.edu.UUCP (Edward J Cetron)
Organization: Center for Engineering Design, Univ of Utah
Lines: 37

In article <95rrk@byuvax.bitnet> rrk@byuvax.bitnet writes:
>Sorry to disillusion you...
	sorry to disillusion you - but I'd expect more from someone from
the same area where I ran IMALUG for several years.....
>
>DECUS is NOT a non-profit organization.  It is heavily subsidized by DEC

	subsidized yes, heavily, hmm, not really. And half the gov't treats
DECUS as non-profit, part doesn't. For at least half my tenure as LUG chair
here in Utah, the USPS allowed non-profit newsletter rates.

>very restricted by DEC as to what they can and can not allow to be presented

DEC doesn't even care about LUG meetings - I had several LUG meetings
with local SLC sales people, AND sales reps from EMULEX and SI at the SAME
time.

>in LUG meetings, and since LUGS aren't even allowed DEC funds to pay for
>mailings, they get nothing for their existence as official LUGS except lots
	
	yep, DEC won't give a penny for mailings - but DECUS will pay the
entire mailing and production costs.

>So why be an official LUG?  In my opinion (I'd enjoy hearing others) it
>is a lot better to not be official.  Individual members can still be national
>DECUS members (and still for free) and the unofficial LUG can have other
>sales people visit (besides DEC's) to better serve the needs of the members.

	WOW, wake up and smell the roses, if offical lugs were so bad, why
does Utah still have 2-3 or them? Must be LOTS of people who disagree with
you.


-ed cetron
center for engineering design
Univ of Utah (The University)
former-chair IMALUG