Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att-cb!att-ih!pacbell!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!PARK-STREET.BBN.COM!brescia From: brescia@PARK-STREET.BBN.COM (Mike Brescia) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: "... and statistics" (Re: [Phil Dykstra: more interesting numbers] ) Message-ID: <8804160621.AA08624@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 14 Apr 88 15:27:10 GMT References: <8804140345.aa14435@SEM.BRL.ARPA> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 44 I think the Internet community would be better served if you could compare these gateways in some way. I want to point out that the LSI11 gateways on the arpanet/milnet border will drop packets and count them for reasons other than congestion, such as '1822 host dead' or 'net unreachable'. Also the "average" throughput is a measure of packets actually offered over the course of the day or week reporting period, so that 10 packets per second really means 864,000 packets in one day, not that the machine is somehow limited to 10 packets per second. While I can cite higher numbers over the 15 minute periods the statistics are sampled, both for arpanet-milnet gateways, and more so for ethernet-ethernet gateways, that still is a measure of handling offered load rather than limitation. There is also no indication whether the packets are long and saturate the communication lines, or short and saturate the gateway processor. Specifically on the msg from phil@brl... Some recently obtained per node averages for gateways: The seven BBN ARPA/MILNET Core gateways: 10.04 packets/sec 5.78 % drop rate (These gateways connect 2 wide area packet switch nets which have 56 kb and 9.6 kb lines.) (As a comparison, here are 2 lsi11 gateways' statistics from yesterday) ( tot sent avr/sec(day) peak/sec(15min) drop(day) ) (MILBBN 1.5e6 19.61 34.30 2.01% ) (CORPE(lan-lan) 1.4e6 18.16 50.01 0 ) The NSFNET Backbone "Fuzzball" gateways: 15.55 packets/sec 0.18 % drop rate (These 5(?) gateways connect to each other with 56 kb lines.) The Bld 394 BRL gateway: ~20 packets/sec ~0.8 % drop rate I would also look for more pleasing statistics from the arpa/mil gateways now that the processors have all been upgraded from dec lsi 11/23 to 11/73. Mike Brescia BBNCC Gateway Development Group