Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!ucsd!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!hplabsz!taylor From: JCOGGSHALL@HAMPVMS.BITNET (Jeff Coggshall) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: Computers, Science, and Civil Society Message-ID: <1825@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> Date: 4 Apr 88 06:44:20 GMT Sender: taylor@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM Lines: 32 Approved: taylor@hplabs In response to Ralph J. Marshall: First of all: There already exists a huge disenfranchisement in society between scientists and non-scientists. The scientific community has been, and continues to be, a sectarian culture, which views itself as autonomous from the concerns of the larger civil society within which it operates. The development and production of technological innovations is, to a large extent, ideologically (and artifically) divorced from societal and ethical concerns. I see this as the primary area which is in need of change: scientists and technicians must integrate societal and ethical responsibility as part of their work - and then everything else will follow idyllically. Maybe. In any case, that sort of consciousness-raising, and view of the cultural role of the scientist must change. > What will happen to our society as a larger and larger section > of the populace is disenfranchised? Some guesses: Between the scientific & nonscientific communitiy you will find increasing Rumour, Mutual Suspicion, Fear, & Hatred. I have heard (and I wish someone would come forth with real information on this) that in the Netherlands somewhere, there are "technology centers," or "science centers," which provide extremely easy, reaching- out type of access to the kind of information which is becoming increasingly necessary to "make it" in these technological times. Jeff