Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att-cb!att-ih!ihnp4!cbmvax!vu-vlsi!devon!stb!michael From: michael@stb.UUCP (Michael) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: 1000 owners get sticked? Message-ID: <10170@stb.UUCP> Date: 1 Apr 88 23:49:46 GMT References: <37321R38@PSUVM> Reply-To: michael@stb.UUCP (Michael) Organization: STB BBS, La, Ca, Usa, +1 213 459 7231 Lines: 53 In article <37321R38@PSUVM> R38@PSUVM.BITNET (aka Marc Rifkin) writes: >I think it is possible that 1000 owners are taking the wrong position in >terms of support and expansion. When they bought their 1000's did they >expect to have the expansion that the 2000 provides? > >BUT- They DO have an AMIGA. Yes, it still runs Amiga software. >All I can say is what did you expect from your computer when you >bought it? I've had it with this. I bought my 1000 expecting to have an expandable computer. I knew that the standard expansion for the system was to be card cage style, with an expansion box. I knew that the people buying SOTS (Slat On The Side) boxes because they were cheaper were buying themselves into a hole. I knew that auto-config was to be standard. I bought a mid-level cage, and top of the line memory board, knowing that if I needed a better cage for non-memory board products, I had a significant discount on it. Suddenly, C= announces a new expansion standard. No more zorro-1 products came out; although I can upgrade my minirack, it would do me no good. And the 2001, or so I've heard, takes up as much space as my amiga, and would push my other computer off the desk. Sorry, I don't have that much space. So why didn't I get a 2000? After all, they are 100% software compatible, right? Right. The Transformer doesn't work on the 2000. Hell, the ROMS don't work on a 2000 (try to recover from a recoverable aleart. Yes I know, a patch is availible now, about a YEAR after the 2000 came out). And they have ROMS. I LIKE Kickstart. That was one feature that attracted me to the 1000 in the first place. And I could have gotten a huge discount on my 2000. For $1100, I'd have a computer, minus monitor. Minus bridgeboard. Minus second drive. Complete packages were going for only $2000; I wasn't saving much. (Yes, minus monitor/drive; thats with the buyback. Or, I save 100, and lose my 1000; I felt it was worth 100 easily.) And then there were the timing tests. The 2000 came out oh-so-fast. Much faster. About 80% of the speed, if I remember correctly. Never did find out if the machines really were slower, or if the timing software hit a difference between the 1000 and the 2000. But the bottom line remains: I bought my 1000 expecting to be able to expand it. Michael -- : Michael Gersten uunet.uu.net!ucla-an.ANES\ : ihnp4!hermix!ucla-an!denwa!stb!michael : sdcsvax!crash!gryphon!denwa!stb!michael : "A hacker lives forever, but not so his free time"