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From: joe@dayton.UUCP (Joseph P. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: SDB: What no menus?
Message-ID: <4504@dayton.UUCP>
Date: 31 Mar 88 15:49:16 GMT
References: <1028@pur-phy> <935@rmi.UUCP> <7901@oberon.USC.EDU> <5550@well.UUCP> <7922@oberon.USC.EDU>
Reply-To: joe@dayton.UUCP (Joseph P. Larson)
Organization: Dayton-Hudson Dept. Store Co.
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In article <7922@oberon.USC.EDU> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes:
>In article <5550@well.UUCP| ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes:
>|	I have never encountered a bug that I couldn't have discovered by
>|taking a good, studious look at the source code.
>|	Further, I have never encountered a debugger that didn't introduce
>|more problems than it solved.
>
>So far I have not found one problem that was introduced by SDB that I didn't
>already have before. Maybe I have been lucky.  Is there anybody else that
>has done some serious debugging with SDB?

I used to use "debug" on VAX/VMS whenever I ran into a problem that "couldn't
be -- I looked and looked for it."  Invariably I would have solved the problem
*substantially* faster if I had just put in a few debug statements and thought
about it a little.

Then there are the bugs that go away when you run with the debugger 'cause the
bug is the fact that you're screwing around with the stack incorrectly or
not passing the right number of arguments or something.

In any case, in my hours and hours of trying to debug programs with a run-time
debugger, the only time it's ever really helped was the day I used sdb on
rogue (again on the VAX, but this time in the Eunice subsystem) to find
where he stored the wizard pw, then find it was encrypted, and finally to
replace the original pw with my own encrypted one so I could become
a wizard myself.  :-)

-Joe
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