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From: geoff@eagle_snax.UUCP ( R.H. coast near the top)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: NCS vs NFS+rpc (In Japanese/Kanji)
Message-ID: <280@eagle_snax.UUCP>
Date: 14 Apr 88 10:38:05 GMT
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Summary: aw, c'mon now, you've been to Uniforum....

In article <3b66e520.13422@apollo.uucp>, mishkin@apollo.uucp (Nathaniel Mishkin) writes:
> In article <1848@ssc-vax.UUCP> benoni@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel) writes:
> >Sun's ONC architecture has been around for awhile and has a number
> >of adopting vendors...(Alliant,Apollo, Arete, DEC, Dana, Gould, Harris,
> >HP, Honeywell, Masscomp, MIPS, NEC, Pyramid, Ridge, SGI, Sony, Stellar,
> >etc) and universities.
> 
> Excuse me if I claim that this list is a bit of hype.  For example, Sun
> declared that Apollo has "adopted ONC" based on the fact that we support
> Sun NFS.  That's a fairly outlandish extrapolation, from our point of
> view.  No one asked us if we thought we had "adopted ONC".

Huh? Apollo has licensed the NFS  trademark and is offering an NFS
product. I presume (though I haven't checked) that you, like most of the other 
licensees, supply the programming libraries along with the NFS capability.
"Adopted" has many interpretations, but this doesn't seem an unreasonable one.
Certainly it doesn't imply exclusivity.

And anyone who goes to Uniforum knows just how real NFS/ONC support
is - almost all vendors (including IBM) offer it. No hype. I'm
the PC-NFS architect, and a significant proportion of the questions
that come my way relate to networks without Suns - just PCs and
VAXen, HPs, Pyramids, etc.

I'm not knocking NCS - I think there are some really important
advances in distributed computing embodied in it - but dismissing
the ONC phenomenon as "hype" is just plain unrealistic.

-- 
Geoff Arnold, Sun Microsystems     | "Universes are just one of those things
SPD at ECD (home of PC-NFS)        | that happen from time to time..."
UUCP:{ihnp4,decwrl...}!sun!garnold | [Dunno who said it - if you know, pass it
ARPA:garnold@sun.com               | on. G.A.]