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From: tsouth@pro-pac.cts.COM (Todd South)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Miscellaneous
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Date: 11 Apr 88 12:02:07 GMT
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In Article: <8804102240.AA13996@wpi.local> DSEAH%WPI.BITNET (Dave Seah) writes:

> Apple Computer, Inc:
> Don't tell any Mac people I said this, but sometimes I think that Apple
> computer would have been better off if the Macintosh had never come
> around.  It's a good solid productivity machine, but its PISSING ME OFF
> THAT THE APPLE II PAID APPLES WAY AND STILL GETS SHAFTED.  Grrrr.
> Maybe they should give the Apple II folks their own company, too.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                Dave Seah --- Worcester Polytechnic Institute

I know the feeling, Dave.  Sometimes, I seriously wonder where the people
at Apple get their marketting stragies from.  Sure, they're making money
at the present -- I wonder why.  The //gs sales roared ahead, some
statistics stating that the //gs is easily outselling the Mac on all fronts.
I can't quote exact sources, this is just heresay that I have entertained.
What do we see Apple working on and promoting?  Ethernet cards!!!  We see
thousands of people buying the //gs, but no obvious intentions coming from
Apple or Claris to ever give it near the support that they are pouring into
other things, such as A/UX.  I still can't understand this thing about the
Appletalk network for the Apple ][ family needing a Mac as the fileserver.
It's ridiculous.  I just can't see why they keep hashing this same old damn
dead dog.  The Apple ][ family is NOT capable of competing with the Mac
family because of the limitations that they put into the system.  This is
a fact.  But for all of the support that is poured into the Mac as compared
to the Apple ]['s we STILL see sales of the Apple ][ family supporting the
hell out of the company.  What do said Apple ][ users get for it?  An O/S
that can only access 32 megs; A lanching system that takes three years to
boot up; Drawing tools that take SECONDS! to refresh a screen!; Fileservers
that require OTHER computers to operate; Nil new software from Claris; etc..

Look at our big baby boomer -- Appleworks.  Although I am sure that there are
a number of really good people working for Claris, WHAT are they doing for
Appleworks? (*the second most sold program in the history of computers!*)
Nothing, that anyone I have talked to knows about.  By the way, Claris folks,
I really loved the new box you put Appleworks in; Must have cost a fortune in
research and development. >-|

I sincerely hope that something starts the fires under the butts of both
Apple and Claris to start seeing what they are potentially doing to the
Apple ][ market.  The Amiga 500 is now selling for $699 with one meg of memory,
mouse, and color monitor.  The hardware and multi-tasking O/S beats anything
that Apple is even selling for the Mac people, in my opinion.  How long will
it be before something like this starts taking away all the "solid" Apple ][
people that both Apple and Claris rely upon to pay their bills?

Todd South

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