Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!elroy!cit-vax!tim From: tim@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (Timothy L. Kay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: US-Japan chip pact Message-ID: <6043@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: 7 Apr 88 19:22:26 GMT References: <3b3430a9.44e6@apollo.uucp> <656@jclyde.UUCP> <499@etn-rad.UUCP> Reply-To: tim@ducat.caltech.edu (Timothy L. Kay) Organization: California Institute of Technology Lines: 51 Summary: add-in boards are overpriced I don't know what this has to do with the original subject, but what the heck. I'll bet that some of you are interested in my comments. John Unekis writes: > I have been an engineer (making computer systems) for nine years, and > I have come to appreciate how valuable the law can be. Just try > producing a new circuit board for the IBM PC without a patent on it. > In two weeks some clone maker will have copied it, and will steal all > the profit that should have been the reward of your efforts. Times are changing. In this day and age, a manufacturer had better either get a patent or STOP TRYING TO GOUGE THE CONSUMER. After all, add-in cards aren't all that hard to make these days (or the cloners wouldn't be able to duplicate them so easily, would they?). You don't see Seagate 251-1 clones, do you? I claim this is because hard disk drives are harder to make. But, just as importantly, Seagate is selling 251-1's at a reasonable price, and items that get cloned are those things that are sold at too much of a premium. Let's take Hercules as an example. They built a product that was very good. After it caught on, Hercules had two choices: 1) "Let's be responsive to customer needs, and offer the board at a reasonable price," or, 2) "Let's keep the price unreasonably high, so there is enormous room for the competition to undercut us and still make a good profit." After all, Hercules had been making the board for several years before the clones started appearing which should give them a cost advantage. Furthermore, they had a reputation which would cause people to pay *slightly* more for the genuine board than for a clone. (The real Hercules board even had an unprecedented two-year warranty.) Unfortunately, they didn't see the writing on the wall, and now everybody and his sister is cloning Hercules cards. I don't see *any* real Hercules cards anymore. I'll bet that most people that are buying "monochrome graphics" these days don't even know that it means "Hercules compatibility." I would never pay $60 for a clone card if I could get the real thing for, perhaps, $90. But I won't pay hundreds of dollars for the real thing. Rather than complain about being ripped off, American companies should work a little harder to be responsive to the customers, and thereby stay one or two steps ahead of the cloners. This is called value adding. Tim