Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!ncar!gatech!mcnc!decvax!mandrill!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Microsoft Windows and MS support? Message-ID: <1082@neoucom.UUCP> Date: 6 Apr 88 04:22:11 GMT References: <496@xios.XIOS.UUCP> <1975@optilink.UUCP> <1060@neoucom.UUCP> <187@spked.UUCP> Sender: wfd@neoucom.UUCP Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 47 Summary: GEM compared to Windows 1.03 Steve Croft points out that comparing GEM with Windows is not exactly fair. As much as it pains me :-) to admit, I guess he is correct. I should be more careful; what I had in mind was GEM 3.0 versus windows 1.03. We only recently received Windows 2, which I have not had the pleasure of being able to use yet. As far as multitasking goes, the comparison of Windows 386 is probably more farily compared to Concurent DOS 386 or with Desqview 2.01. I still belive you get more for your money when you purchase either GEM draw or GEM write (which comes with paint). The GEM products come with the complete desk environment (not just runtime). Windows on the other hand seems to have left the development of applications up to 3rd party developers. I suppose that is alright since that is how we make money, being 3rd parties. While, I don't own it, I have watched a person tinkering with Windows 2's paint program -- it doesn't really seem to have evolved any since 1.03. The last point still stands, I'd rank Microsoft's telephone support as only one notch more helpful than Micropro's support for Wordstar; not exactly award-winning. Microsoft is a big company, but not all big companies have bad phone support -- AT&T, for instance is pretty good, but then they ought be be, seeing as they are in the phone business. Hardware compatibility is also an issue. The guy that is working with Windows has had some problems on non True-blue IBM equipment. It has been my experience that GEM is more forgiving. For instance, I have not been able to get Windows 1.03 to work with the STB EGA card that I use in my AT&T 6300. GEM, on the other hand appears to abide by the rules, and yet does not really seem to be slow by being a good hardware citizen. While windows may be a fine product, one may find that GEM is the only viable windowing environment for clone computers and/or weird video cards. Of course, Windows will win in the end because Microsoft knows how to court the media and developers while Digital Research has neither the money nor apparent accumen to do so. -- That is, of course, assuming that Apple doesn't get its way! --Bill