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From: fmayhar@gryphon.CTS.COM (Frank Mayhar)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Usenet access: this "fascism" nonsense
Message-ID: <3141@gryphon.CTS.COM>
Date: 5 Apr 88 05:57:11 GMT
References: <1288@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu> <511@fig.bbn.com> <173@logi-dc.UUCP>
Reply-To: fmayhar@gryphon.CTS.COM (Frank Mayhar)
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
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Summary: Wrongo, tiny one! :-)

In article <173@logi-dc.UUCP> joe@logi-dc.UUCP (Joe Dzikiewicz) writes:
>In article <511@fig.bbn.com>, rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) writes:
>>
>> And, in an effort to prove that he is either unaware of the fundamental
>> documents of the US,* or to prove that Max is write, Bob Webber writes:
>> >There is no more or less a ``right to Usenet Access'' than there is a
>> >right to ``life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.''  
>> 
>
>Hate to tell you this, but there is no legal right to "the pursuit of 
>happiness" in this here USA.  That phrase comes from the Declaration of
>Indiana (or something like that).  Said document has no legal weight.
>
>The applicable right in the Constitution is, I believe, in the 14th amendment
>and reads
>
>	"...right to life, liberty, and property..."
>[...]
>			joe@logi-dc

Well, you were close, but you don't get the cigar.  The D of I does, indeed,
mention an inalienable right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Unfortunately for us Libertarians, though, the Constitution doesn't guarantee
life, liberty, and property.  The right to property was a Lockeian concept, as
I remember it, and narrowly missed being put in both documents.  I may be wrong,
but it seems like the Federalists, notably Hamilton, were the primary opponents
of a "right to property."

Now, what is this doing in news.admin?  Followups are hereby redirected to talk.
politics.misc, or whereever.

Frank Mayhar
(fmayhar@killer.uucp, when killer is back, until then I'm fmayhar@pnet02.uucp)
(or something like that)
Frank-Mayhar%ladc@BCO-MULTICS.ARPA 
indeed, mention a