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From: mark@cblpf.ATT.COM (Mark Horton)
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Subject: Re: Formalizing rules (Really the relevancy of the backbone)
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Date: 8 Apr 88 18:37:11 GMT
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In article <571@fig.bbn.com> rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) writes:
>Sites that are apparently only UUCP:
>	ihnp4
>Sites known to be dead as of right now:
>	cbosgd (presumably cb-att is filling this spot right now, but
>		lots of folks fled when cbosgd died...)

A small correction, please:

Both ihnp4 and cbosgd are being phased out, although Tim's message did
just mention cbosgd.  They are being replaced with att-ih and att-cb.
Netnews is already flowing over the new machines, although most email
is still going via ihnp4 and cbosgd.  ihnp4 and cbosgd are both still
up and running OK.

Rather than publicize names like att-cb and att-ih, we're going to call
them both "att" and arrange that they appear to be one machine.  Work
is progressing right now to accomplish this.  This is why neighbors of
att-cb are being contacted to instead become neighbors of att.  Neighbors
of att-ih should expect to be called soon, and may wish to add "att" to
their Systems files in addition to att-ih.

The real message to most of you is this:

	cbosgd and ihnp4 are still up, but will be phased out over the
	next few months.  The plug could be pulled around July 1.

	A new machine called "att" is coming up now.  The UUCP map will
	be updated to advertise "att" within a week or two.  Those of
	you with names like "cbosgd" or "ihnp4" hardwired into your
	routing tables, or your heads, should think about "att" instead.
	Those of you with such names in your .signature file or in your
	product literature should find alternate routes (we recommend
	attmail at 1-800-MAIL672, but of course there are many alternatives)

	Eventually (early 1989) we anticipate other many other AT&T gateway
	machines (such as clyde, ulysses, mtune, etc) being folded into
	the "att" structure, so that we present a uniform appearance to
	the rest of the world.  Local dialups in each of the areas are
	anticipated; you won't have to call Chicago from New Jersey.


		Mark Horton
		wearing my AT&T hat