Xref: utzoo sci.bio:1065 talk.origins:1231 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!im4u!ut-sally!utah-cs!utah-gr!stride!tahoe!malc From: malc@tahoe.unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock) Newsgroups: sci.bio,talk.origins Subject: Re: sexual selection and investment Message-ID: <1153@tahoe.unr.edu> Date: 5 Apr 88 07:16:46 GMT References: <1988Mar13.160941.22096@utzoo.uucp> <25527@cca.CCA.COM> <2403@saturn.ucsc.edu> <25669@cca.CCA.COM> <1125@3comvax.3Com.Com> <4736@aw.sei.cmu.edu> <1137@3comvax.3Com.Com> <368@nancy.UUCP> Reply-To: malc@tahoe.unr.edu.UUCP (Malcolm L. Carlock) Organization: Univ. of Nev., Reno-Mathematics Lines: 48 Keywords: neoteny, humans as physically "underdeveloped" apes Summary: Looks like humans have LOST sexual dimorphism Concerning the debate over whether humans have become less sexually dimorphic, or the other pongidae (gorillas, chimps, orangs) more dimorphic: An important characteristic that distinguishes adult humans from adult members of the other pongidae is the fact that the opening at the base of the skull through which the spinal cord passes (sorry, I can't remember what it's called) remains nearly centered at the bottom of the skull throughout the life of the individual, helping to allow an upright posture. In the case of the other pongidae, infants are born with this opening in the central position (as in humans), but as an infant matures, the opening migrates toward the rear of the skull, resulting in a more horizontal attachment of the head to the body, in harmony with a more hunched ("apelike") adult posture. The result of all this is that adult humans tend to resemble INFANT chimps/ gorillas/orangs MUCH more than they resemble the adults of those groups (large head relative to body, small face, spinal cord opening at bottom of skull, etc.) What is all this leading to? Well . . . A common characteristic of mammals, including apes, is that sexual dimorphism prior to puberty is almost nonexistent (other than obvious differences in the construction of sexual organs). Since adult humans tend to resemble infant apes, and infant apes display far less sexual dimorphism than adult apes, then it would seem that humans have indeed "lost" some of their sexual dimorphism relative to the other pongidae. . . . The phenomenon of one species actually being an underdeveloped form of another species (in this case, humans being (physically) "underdeveloped" apes) is known as neoteny, and much evidence has been accumulated which supports the neotenic view of human development. For an interesting discussion of neoteny, see Stephen Jay Gould's book, "The Mismeasure of Man" (well worth reading in any case). Cordially, Malcolm L. Carlock ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Timesharer's Motto: "Batches?! We don't need no stinking batches!!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- malc@tahoe.unr.edu.UUCP University of Nevada, Reno