Xref: utzoo sci.psychology:223 rec.birds:536 sci.bio:1094 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mailrus!ames!amdahl!drivax!braun From: braun@drivax.UUCP (Kral) Newsgroups: sci.psychology,rec.birds,sci.bio Subject: Re: Intelligent Parrots, or Self-deception and Gullibility. Message-ID: <3339@drivax.UUCP> Date: 14 Apr 88 21:26:37 GMT References: <1988Mar4.162334.18184@utzoo.uucp> <4299@blia.BLI.COM> <1988Mar9.132722.3364@mntgfx.mentor.com> <2495@geac.UUCP> <2535@saturn.ucsc.edu> <762@actnyc.UUCP> <2231@ttidca.TTI.COM> <2550@geac.UUCP> <2282@ttidca.TTI.COM> Reply-To: braun@drivax.UUCP (Kral) Organization: Digital Research, Inc. Lines: 35 In article <2282@ttidca.TTI.COM> hollombe@ttidcb.tti.com (The Polymath) writes: >I'm beginning to see that "hard-wired" is a poor choice of metaphor when >dealing with the brain. In a sense, the brain programs itself by changing >its "wiring", so anything it does can be called hard-wired. I think the >original intent was to define instinct as behaviors hard-wired at birth, >requiring no further training. The nature of the brain is such that >proper stimulus may elicit a learned behavior. I agree somewhat. Did anyone see the PBS special on the brain broadcast a couple of weeks ago? There was a great experiment where (gee, I wish I could remember details, like *names*) brain tissue was excited to generate a current between neurons. As the current was produced, the path between the neurons (help me out with names here) became more efficient at carrying the current, and the neurons changed to, all to facilitate 'message carrying' on that 'path'. The implications relative to this topic are (in my opinion) this: Some paths are already established at birth. Others are not. Some beings are more capable of making these paths more effecient (learning), others not. So it seems to me we are just talking about a matter of degrees, and 'hardwired' now seems to mean the inability to change, rather than just an inate or apriori-learned action. (Another neat experiment was performed on an epileptic which had had the two halves of his brain disconnected. If he saw a picture with two objects, his left hand could only draw the picture on one side, his right hand could only cope with the other image -- other details about how he represented the image reflect on the analytic vs artistic functions of the two halves.) etc. -- kral 408/647-6112 ...{ism780|amdahl}!drivax!braun Think Globally ... Act Locally DISCLAIMER: If DRI knew I was saying this stuff, they would shut me d~-~oxx