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From: jsb@dasys1.UUCP (The Invisible Man)
Newsgroups: sci.misc,talk.philosophy.misc
Subject: Re: The nature of reality.
Message-ID: <3667@dasys1.UUCP>
Date: 1 Apr 88 23:17:23 GMT
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Reply-To: jsb@dasys1.UUCP (The Invisible Man)
Organization: Diet Software
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Keywords: reality credibility validity
Summary: Let's try it from a different machine...

In article <381@thirdi.UUCP> sarge@thirdi.UUCP (Sarge Gerbode) writes:
)
)What I am talking about is an epistemologically prior level of study:  the
)study of experience itself:  the rules by which it is formed, received, and
)changed, as seen from the inside looking out, as well as the rules by which
)one interpretation is considered more credible than another.  This study would
)also include an enumeration and discussion of the most basic abilities a
)person has.  These elements form the subject matter of what I call
)"metapsychology".  My view is that any physical model of experience would be
)best founded in a sound metapsychology as an epistemological base.

So it looks as though we were talking about the *same thing* all along.  We 
never would have found that out the way we were heading...  I find it odd to
refer to this "experience itself" as a map and wonder why you do so?  I also
suspect that this area has been substantially mapped out by the filthy eastern
ways and can be read about in the Upanishads or some such.

Now as far as having intentions, etc. are concerned, it adds no explanitory
power for me to plain old conciouness which, in my reality, machines don't get
to have but merely to simulate.  But if we need something to argue about, I
either don't understand or don't agree with your view of emotions (though I
agree they are "related" to wants).  Maybe I should read your book to find
out how you use words?
-- 
)"The map may not be the territory, but it's all we've got."
)
)Sarge Gerbode
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