Xref: utzoo talk.politics.misc:8772 sci.misc:1264 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!eder From: eder@ssc-vax.UUCP (Dani Eder) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,sci.misc Subject: Re: greenhouse effect / solar power satellites Message-ID: <1835@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: 5 Apr 88 02:30:06 GMT References: <34557@kestrel.ARPA> <2430@umd5.umd.edu> <2116@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> <22678@bbn.COM> Distribution: na Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA Lines: 41 In article <22678@bbn.COM>, eli@bbn.com (Steve Elias) writes: > > regardless of the efficiency of any of the ground receiver systems, > solar power satellites would add incredible amounts of energy to > the earth/atmosphere system, whether in the form of electricity, > or in the form of waste heat. this is their function. > the form the energy takes is not relevant to the global thermal > considerations. > > my point isn't that we have to minimize waste heat -- it is that > we have to minimize the amount of energy that enters the earth > ecosystem that would not otherwise be there. > If you are concerned about heat balance, have you considered tar-paper roofs and asphalt roads? Let us do some ROM calculations. Your typical suburban home has about 160 square meters of roof. Most roofing materials are darn good black body absorbers. Your average temperate latitude home receives 125 Watts of insolation/sqaure meter, over 24 hours. Let us say the roof absorbs 40 watts more than the original cround cover. Thus, the suburban home adds someting on the order of 6.4 kilowatts to the earth's heat balance. This equals the installed electrical generating capacity per household in the US. There is something like 300 square meters of road for every household in the US. In addition, there is a parking spot for every car at a location other than the owner's drivewaay (only that counts, since the car always covers some part of the ground when outdoors) That adds at least another 30 square meters per household. Assume that the same change in absorbtion occurs as for roofs. We are talking several times the effect of the roofsa. In fact, when one looks at Landsat photographs of city areas, the cities stand out as dark splotches. And many city dwellers are familiar with the temperature differential from city to suburb. What most are nmot familiar with is the trend continues into the rural areas. It is partly waste heat and partly darker ground cover. Dani Eder/Boeing/Space Station Program