Xref: utzoo sci.space.shuttle:629 sci.space:5124 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!mailrus!umix!umich!mibte!gamma!ulysses!thumper!karn From: karn@thumper.bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle,sci.space Subject: Re: Moon or Mars? Editorial in _Air & Space Smithsonian_ Message-ID: <1022@thumper.bellcore.com> Date: 5 Apr 88 18:56:41 GMT References: <47032@sun.uucp> <1290@hubcap.UUCP> <4076@whuts.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc Lines: 41 Summary: it's been done > ... The dark far side of the > : moon..." being a good place to conduct " ...sensitive radio astronomy... > : without interference from terrestrial signals." Yes, it's a great idea. In fact, it's already been done. Only it was an unmanned probe in lunar orbit instead of a manned base on the surface. The spacecraft recorded its observations during the time it was shielded from earth, and it relayed them back down when earth was visible. I really wish people would stop clutching at straws, looking for every possible application of their pet man-in-space project when many (if not most) of the tasks can be done far more cheaply and effectively with unmanned spacecraft. In the case of lunar-shielded radio astronomy, lunar orbit makes a lot more sense than the lunar surface for several very good reasons: 1. You need communications channels back to earth. A radio telescope on the far side of the moon would need relay satellites in lunar orbit for this purpose. These satellites would themselves have to transmit within view of the far side of the moon, possibly polluting the very spectrum you spent so much to view in a pristine state. On the other hand, a telescope in lunar orbit can provide its own store-and-forward relay. It need not transmit anything at all while it is actually observing. 2. You need power. This is much easier to obtain in orbit, since solar panels will be illuminated for roughly half of each orbit. On the surface, you will almost certainly need nuclear power sources to carry you through the long 2-week lunar night. Thermal control is also much easier in orbit. Of course much of a surface station could be buried to help level out the day/night temperature fluctuations, except for the antennas -- and these are likely to be very susceptible to severe thermal-induced distortions. 3. You need large antennas. You can build truly awesome arrays in zero-gee that require very little mass. Not quite as easy even in 1/6 G. Even Arthur C. Clarke originally conceived of his geostationary satellite relays as being manned. Fortunately, technological developments (and some economic common sense) have made that romantic notion unnecessary. Phil