Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!ccicpg!turnkey!stanton!donegan From: donegan@stanton.TCC.COM (Steven P. Donegan) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: Ethernet utilisation Message-ID: <38@stanton.TCC.COM> Date: 30 Apr 88 14:08:47 GMT References: <47@xenon.UUCP> Organization: Stanton Public Domain Systems, Stanton, Ca. Lines: 34 Keywords: ethernet csma/cd utilisation Summary: CSMA/CD is NON-DETERMINISTIC! In article <47@xenon.UUCP>, goodloe@xenon.UUCP (Tony Goodloe) writes: > I have heard (from some forgotten source ) that the access mechanism used on Ethernet will not allow a REAL csma/cd network to achieve more than about 50%-60% network utilisation. Can someone point me in the direction of a paper, article, personal experience, etc. that supports or refutes this claim? Many thanks. > I have seen these types of questions so many times that I feel it necessary to respond. A CSMA/CD media protocol is non-deterministic. If only 2 stations are connected via the cable and a transfer is started then the full bandwidth available can be utilized. As the number of stations, distance between stations, cable plant inconsistancies (I've never seen a perfect ethernet segment) and many other factors change it becomes impossible to determine real throughput by prediction. Only real world testing will give you valid results and due to the nature of most networks (constant change) the results of any tests are only valid for a limited time. With the exception of diskless workstation nets I have seldom seen real network utilization exceed 20-30%. Diskless workstation environments can eat up the bandwidth incredibly fast (6 - 10 SUN stations can saturate a segment if you try :-))). Repeaters and bridges can make this question even more impossible to answer. I find continuous performance monitoring the only reliable way to determine the state of your network. The items to watch for are an increasing (slowly, due to traffic; not quickly due to hard problems) level of collisions, crc errors, too short or too long packets. I have watched WD's ethernet grow from 1 building and <100 stations to 16 buildings, 2800+ stations (station=end device, not node - nodes went from 3 to roughly 200 as of today) and have run into many different performance problems, all of which could be solved by segmentation and learning bridge implementations. An ethernet is a synergy of all it's respective components, only extremely careful design and monitoring can keep it running properly. After all the above, it's still far easier than manageing a broadband net :-) -- Steven P. Donegan Sr. Telecommunications Analyst Western Digital Corp. donegan@stanton.TCC.COM