Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!osu-cis!att!att-ih!ihnp4!ih1ap!phread From: phread@ih1ap.ATT.COM (J.F. Shumway) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Need 9600 for severe noise environment Message-ID: <1009@ih1ap.ATT.COM> Date: 28 Apr 88 18:35:00 GMT References: <872@pilchuck.Data-IO.COM> <188@octopus.UUCP> Reply-To: phread@ih1ap.UUCP (J F Shumway) Organization: Icarus Anonymous Lines: 45 Keywords: Taiwan wire_plant luck Summary: Taiwan's noise problems are within local wire plant Taiwan's noise problems are in their local wire plant, that final mile from the switch to the wall jack. In general, local loop maintenance is nowhere near the quality one is used to getting in the US of A, unless of course you can bring some clout to bear, you're a high official in the telephony bureaucracy, or, your 2nd cousin works in the installation and maintenance group at your local phone office. On the other hand Taiwan's toll network is well maintained, and they've been investing heavily in state of the art local CO switching equipment. Their noise problems are in the local wire plant. If you ever get the chance to visit, which I heartily recommend, talk a stroll through the older sections of Taipei and notice the power and phone distribution technology (or lack thereof). It will remind you of a Phyllis Diller hairdo. I've heard, that the telephone authorities will sometimes just keep assigning you a new local loop, from the pole to the CO, until they find one that works! I've seen uucp throughput figures ranging from 700 bytes/second using a TB+ with an EIA speed of 9600 baud (not bad for a satellite link) to only 30-150 bytes/second using Microcom 9624Cs through a local circuit that was so noisy that voice com was often impossible. Some in the Taiwan telephone authority suggested increasing Microcom's transmit power from the US default of -12 dBm to 0 dBm. This, not suprisingly, can't be done with this model Microcom and most other reasonably priced modems built to FCC (USA) specs. And in any case this strategy only helps get half of your data above the noise floor. The Taiwan telephone authority (DGT) offers DCE or async PAD access to their island wide X.25 packet network which can feed to Tymnet and Telenet here in the US, among others. This service is not cheap and I can't vouch for its quality. The only available description of this service is written in Mandarin, which I don't even pretend to understand. Although I can't tell you more it may be worth investigating. Good Luck, dcom in Taiwan is a matter of luck. -- Jesse Fred Shumway ihnp4!ih1ap!phread