Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!think!barmar From: barmar@think.COM (Barry Margolin) Newsgroups: comp.emacs Subject: Re: mega-flame on GNU & Unipress Message-ID: <20394@think.UUCP> Date: 1 May 88 18:18:14 GMT References: <8804300706.AA08462@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> Sender: usenet@think.UUCP Reply-To: barmar@fafnir.think.com.UUCP (Barry Margolin) Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge, MA Lines: 31 In article <8804300706.AA08462@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> DAVIS@blue.sdr.slb.COM writes: >So: why no modeline dragging in emacstool ? why no decent menus ? why >no built in help-on-mouse-thing ? why no interface to font changes ? >why is apropos help so slow under GNU ? why is interactive mouse and >key binding so complicated for naive users ? why no continuous scroll >? why no up-click hooks for mouse events ? why no interface to dbm ? >why no inversion of the region ? Almost all of the things you complained about are related to support for window systems and high-speed workstations. Emacs (both the GNU version and most of its predecessors and descendents) was not written specifically for such environments. It is designed to be usable on everything from printing terminals (yes, this actually works in some Emacs implementations) to Sun workstations, and the user interface is the same in all environments. Yes, there are a few mouse operations in GNU Emacs. But I suspect that most of the GNU Emacs developers are not heavily into mousing, so they didn't bother adding everything. Remember, GNU is a volunteer effort; developers implement what they think is important. The best thing you can do to advance the state of the art in using the mouse with GNU Emacs is to submit the changes you are making to be incorporated into the standard version. That is how GNU Emacs grows. Barry Margolin Thinking Machines Corp. barmar@think.com uunet!think!barmar