Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!MCL.UNISYS.COM!perry From: perry@MCL.UNISYS.COM (Dennis Perry) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: My two cents about charge schemes on the Arpanet Message-ID: <8804260952.AA08097@LANAI.MCL.UNISYS.COM> Date: 26 Apr 88 09:52:49 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 18 Valdis, you raise an interesting point about multiple routes and some nets that charge and some that don't. This gets into some interesting issues about routing and routing restrictions. Indeed, one might develop several PhD thesis about 'routing with restrictions' or gateways that spend 50% of there time deciding if they can accept you packet (no money, wrong organization, wrong destination, etc.) A similar issue apparent arose in the Arpanet connections to Europe that went over x.25 links thru the PTTs. The X.25 networks wanted to charge the Arpanet for traffice originating in the Arpanet destined to Europe, across the X.25 links. The Europeans were already paying for their half. DARPA refused to pay, making the argument that it was a 'wash'. If we charged the Europeans to carry their traffic and they charged us to carry their traffic, the excercise was one of exchanging the same amount of money, so why waste the money on the overhead of breaking even? The net result was the Europeans pay for both directions of traffic. dennis