Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!umd5!purdue!decwrl!ucbvax!VAX.FTP.COM!jbvb From: jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James Van Bokkelen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: Help with Netware compatible (hardware independent) pc-tcp/ip Message-ID: <8804231458.AA22781@vax.ftp.com> Date: 23 Apr 88 14:58:13 GMT References: <8804221611.aa01260@Louie.UDEL.EDU> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 37 None of them use NETBIOS to encapsulate IP datagrams, but there are several Novell-compatible, hardware- (but not media-) independent versions of TCP/IP for the IBM PC that are either commercially supported, or widely available in the public domain. Our product for the IBM 802.5 Token Ring calls the IBM-supplied software driver (the ASI interface), and can share it with other programs (Banyan Vines, Novell Netware). IBM's PC product might be able to manage the same trick, but I don't know of anyone who has tried it. A number of Novell's OEMs have modified their versions of Netware so that they support our Packet Driver spec. This allows our Generic Ethernet version to share the interface with Netware. (Or you can ask Karl Auerbach for the CMU version he posted about on pc-ip a week or two ago. It also uses the spec.) Regrettably, none of the versions of Netware that support the Packet Driver spec run on the 3C501, but there may be a workaround: The 3C501 is so simple (I'm being nice) that it is possible for two pieces of software using it to co-exist: You can run a TCP/IP package that is careful about restoring the interrupt vector, as long as you don't try to use the LAN program while the TCP/IP has the card. I know this works with our PC/TCP or the CMU freeware and 3Com's 3+, it would be worth trying with Netware. For Arcnet, you could try Philip Prindeville's version of the CMU code, which has also been mentioned on pc-ip. I don't know if you could manage the "co-existence" trick with Netware, or not. Of course, this approach requires IP routers to forward normal IP packets back and forth across the various networks. Keep in mind that encapsulating IP in NETBIOS datagrams requires at least one IP router, too. Somebody has to get the packets onto and off of your normal-IP backbone (?) Ethernet, and the NETBIOS-space, however it is mapped to the various LANs, is at least one subnet on its own. If you aren't totally committed to Netware, you might try looking up Banyan and asking them how they'd solve your problem. James VanBokkelen FTP Software Inc.