Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!tektronix!reed!percival!littlei!ogcvax!pase From: pase@ogcvax.UUCP (Douglas M. Pase) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: MS in SE or CS Message-ID: <1622@ogcvax.UUCP> Date: 17 Apr 88 00:32:08 GMT References: <17063@gatech.edu> Reply-To: pase@ogcvax.UUCP (Douglas M. Pase) Organization: Oregon Graduate Center, Beaverton, OR Lines: 24 This whole discussion has brought to the surface one of my pet peeves. It seems in some cases that an MS in CS is used as a shortcut into industrial positions -- either programming or leadership. I have seen a number of people with an unrelated BS degree (e.g. Biology, Chemistry, or English) get an MS in CS, and receive better offers/treatment than those with a BS in CS. I would consider this reasonable IFF those people had a better grasp of CS, programming, or SOMETHING worthwhile. (You probably think I'm now going to tell you they didn't, and you're right.) In each of the cases I had to work directly with the individuals, and they were more of a liability than an asset. They would propose ambitious programs/features with almost no concept of performance or how such things would be implemented. Even taking care of the more mundane things seemed almost beyond them. In two of the three cases they were also Prima Donnas who demanded better equipment for themselves than was available to the rest of the group. (And no the rest of you guys can't have new stuff -- it's too expensive!) In all fairness, my sample size is three, and each of these guys had been out of school no more than two years by the time I got them. Also, I worked with several others who had BS degrees in Math and/or CS, and an MS in CS; I observed no such problems with them. I don't think there's anything wrong with an MS in CS, but I do see problems with having a BS in something unrelated if you've got one. -- Doug Pase -- ...ucbvax!tektronix!ogcvax!pase or pase@cse.ogc.edu (CSNet)