Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!ucsd!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!sdcrdcf!trwrb!ucla-an!remsit!stb!michael From: michael@stb.UUCP (Michael) Newsgroups: comp.sources.games.bugs Subject: Re: Abusing the rules in Conquer Message-ID: <10204@stb.UUCP> Date: 24 Apr 88 06:31:14 GMT References: <379@nancy.UUCP> <11274@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> <1952@homxc.UUCP> Reply-To: michael@stb.UUCP (Michael) Organization: STB BBS, La, Ca, Usa, +1 213 459 7231 Lines: 36 In article <1952@homxc.UUCP> smile@homxc.UUCP (E.BARLOW) writes: >In article <11274@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU>, cc1@CS.UCLA.EDU (me at school) writes: >> Unfortunately, thats nothing. There's a much bigger bug in conquest, and I >> stopped playng becuse of it. >> ... >> The big problem with this is that population increase is adjusted by number of >> people in a spot--there's no NEED to expand in this game. >> Michael >Why should everybody need to expand? I made different victory conditions >to alleviate the need for everybody doing the same thing! >... >rational behind expansion is because most players scores are dependent >on gaining land... Your dwarf wizard is not and gets points as follows: You miss my point. Conquest will let you have a million people mining a sector, they will still grow at 10% and the mine will not run out. This is broken in both ways. There should be a limit to the amount of space a sector can hold. A non-city should not support as many people as a city. A mine should eventually run out--slowly, dropping from 9 to 8 to 7 .... to 1 to 0. A farmland might runout eventually, if you don't rotate crops. Etc. This is the big problem in conquest. This is why I can't play it anymore. The Dwarven Wizard example I gave is the biggest abuse of this--a normal player is very good to get 30 points per update, this player can get about 200 points per, and after everyone else has wiped themselves out trying to conquere the world, he can then wipe out everyone else. But EVERYONE has these problems--the DW simply benefits the most from them. Michael -- : Michael Gersten uunet.uu.net!ucla-an.ANES\ : ihnp4!hermix!ucla-an!denwa!stb!michael : sdcsvax!crash!gryphon!denwa!stb!michael : "This signature is too tame; anyone got some gasoline? "