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From: kent@xanth.cs.odu.edu (Kent Paul Dolan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: HEY COMMODORE SALES!  Re: AMIX?
Message-ID: <5084@xanth.cs.odu.edu>
Date: 27 Apr 88 12:52:46 GMT
References: <466@mailrus.cc.umich.edu> <863@gethen.UUCP> <391@brambo.UUCP> <1878@sugar.UUCP> <1207@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
Reply-To: kent@xanth.UUCP (Kent Paul Dolan)
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk Va.
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Keywords: customer speaks about brain dead software choice
Summary: Were you paying attention?

In article <1207@sbcs.sunysb.edu> root@sbcs.sunysb.edu (SBCS Systems Staff) writes:
>Peter, the CMU spec is quite a few years old.  I think that even Chuck's
>       estimate is a bit low ball, but workable.  This is our rough
>       requirement for a next generation workstation a SUNY/Stony Brook:
>
>	10-20 mips main processor
>	> 10M SP Whetstones FP performance
>	8 mBytes memory, must be expandable to 512 mBytes or greater
>	Medium resolution color screen, eg 1280x1024x8, must be
>		expandable to x24 and graphics rendering processor
>	FDDI networking, at least.  At least 50 mbps end to end throughput.
>	Fast internal bus, eg 100 mBps or greater.
>	Real Unix.  We're comfortable with 4.3, or SunOS 4.X.  SysV not welcome.
>	
>       We're looking at SGI, Apollo PRISM, etc.  Our low end requirement
>       is roughly Sun-3/60: 
>
>	3 mips processor
>	no min FP requirement, '881/'882 preferred
>	4 mBytes memory, expandable to at least 16 mBytes
>	Medium res color screen, eg 1024x1024x8
>	Ethernet networking
>	Real Unix.
>
>      The CMU requirement is just that: it is what CMU will buy.  We have
>      100+ Suns here, and I'll tell you that a 3/50 is pretty well threshold
>      of pain in current workstations.  In such an environment, the current
>      Amiga makes an awesome terminal with some compute ability.  It does
>      not make a workable Unix machine.  At least for the sort of Unix
>      we run here.
>
>      Listen to Chuck.  He is giving you the straight story.  Real unix
>      machines cost bucks.  
>
>						Rick Spanbauer
>						SUNY/Stony Brook
>	


Did you catch that?  Were you paying attention?

No?  Let's try again:

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* Real Unix.  We're comfortable with 4.3, or SunOS 4.X.  SysV not welcome. *
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Still no?  One more try:

                         *******************
			 *SysV not welcome.*
			 *SysV not welcome.*
			 *SysV not welcome.*
			 *SysV not welcome.*
			 *SysV not welcome.*
			 *SysV not welcome.*
			 *SysV not welcome.*
			 *SysV not welcome.*
			 *SysV not welcome.*
			 *SysV not welcome.*
                         *******************

Now?  Those are the paying customers speaking guys, and they are NOT
kidding around, and that is NOT an isolated opinion.  Think it
through, please?  It's your corporate survival, and my IRA retirement
plan.  Do it right, OK?

Kent, the man from xanth.