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From: ralphw@IUS3.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU (Ralph Hyre)
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Subject: AmigaDOS<->Amiga Unix integration (was Re: Amiga IPC should be the Amiga Unix IPC!)
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Date: 28 Apr 88 15:22:03 GMT
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In article <2531@unicus.UUCP> craig@Unicus.COM (Craig D. Hubley) writes:
>In article <290@boing.UUCP> dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck) writes:
>>In article <2504@unicus.UUCP> *I* write:
>>>to Amiga Unix tasks (remember AmigaDOS will run as a task under Amiga Unix).
>>
>>As far as I know,  AmigaDOS will not be running as a task under Amiga Unix.
>
>Arg.  Clarification, Commodore ?
Anyone who has seen a Sun RoadRunner (386i machine) will know kind of seamless
integration is possible. (PC-DOS and Unix filesystem integration, run up to 16
PC-DOS programs (via the '386 virtual 8086 capability.)
Borrowing from something someone else stated on comp.unix.aux, AmigaDOS should
be to AmigaUnix as PC/DOS is to the Sun-386i.  68020/030 support full virtual
machine models, so that AmigaDOS won't even have to know it's running under
AmigaUnix, (ie let the Unix kernel do all the trapping and handling of
Intuition stuff, or whatever.)  This is a perfect opportunity to improve on
what Apple (for example) has attempted to do.  Commodore, please don't let
whoever you buy your Unix from screw you into a fixed, closed, 'turnkey'
system.  Silicon Graphics seems to have this problem with the UniSoft Unix 
they use, I'd never even think of trying to add a device to the (undocumented)
kernel.

>	Not even Apple or IBM has been this stupid, and they don't care either.
>	A/UX and OS/2 will supposedly run old Mac and old MS-DOS programs.
Apple doesn't seem to have the degree of MacOS<->AUX integration that seems
useful - you can't plug in a Mac disk and run the Mac software on it.
The current Mac Disk<->A/UX 'conversion program' only handles MFS (400k) disks.

If the MAST bunch don't get their act together and keep doing neat things that
the PC people still only dream of, I may have no choice but to get a '386
machine.   Remember, the 68020 virtual machine is a REAL 68020, not like 
the Intel product, which wimped out and only did a 8086 inside the 80386 - 
this will make it hard to do OS/2 under Unix, but on the other hand nobody 
sane would want to.)
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					- Ralph W. Hyre, Jr.

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