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From: lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: comp.binaries.apple2
Message-ID: <520@n8emr.UUCP>
Date: 17 Apr 88 20:42:06 GMT
References: <8804151338.aa01657@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA>
Reply-To: lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Ham BBS, Columbus,Oh. 614-457-4227 (300/1200,8N1)
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In article <8804151338.aa01657@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA> SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET writes:
-->It appears that aside from making it a little easier for a few people
-->to recieve files, comp.binaries.apple2 buys little because it doesn't
-->archive files.  What do you get that wasn't obtainable from APPLE2-L
-->(which DOES archive, but isn't easily reachable -- I AM exchanging
-->mail with listserv's author about that by the way; someday APPLE2-L
-->WILL be able to send files to any legal rfc822 address :)?
-->
The 'only' folks that comp.binaries.apple2 makes things easier for is the
6000-8000 sites which ONLY have access via uucp to usenet - sorry, but that
is currently the case.  What this does is let these folks contribute and
receive contributions.  As for 'archiving' perhaps someone should contact
Rick Adams at uunet and see if he perhaps saves binaries contributions - 
uunet is the major archiving site on usenet at this time.

-->Since APPLE2-L maintains an archive, all the more important for
-->APPE2-L to receive copies of binaries.apple2 (and vice versa).
-->Surely every newslist has SOMEONE who looks after it (even if
-->benignly :-) as Brint Cooper does for info-apple).  There needs

Here is a major misunderstanding by all Bitnetters and perhaps other networkers.
Usenet has two modes.  A moderated group acts as a 'newslist' or mailing list
- there is a central contact thru whom all postings go.

BUT, the majority of groups are unmoderated.  Consider these as if they
were hundreds of BBS boards WITHOUT A SYSOP!  There is NO ONE in charge
of comp.sys.apple in usenet - all messages go out in all directions to all
receivers.  What Brint does I assume is manage a moderated news list on
arpanet for the Apple2 readers.  He must receive comp.sys.apple via one of
the various machines he has contacts thru and then provides a service of
gatewaying these into info-apple.  BUT, usenet - itself - provides no such
service.  It is an anarchy of sorts, with the net.gods of news.groups, etc.
serving as overall managers of the amount of network traffic coming thru
the major sites.  But there is NO one in the usenet area who takes care
of subscription requests, dropping of subscription requests, providing files
to other machines, etc.  We just have hundreds of non-academic sites out here
connected by modems with a mutally agreed upon format for individual 
articles (for the most part).  There basically is no comperable concept
for it in the rest of the world.  There is no organization like fidonets,
no major author like proline, no forum sysops like compuserve, no roundtable
coordinator like Genie, etc.  Just a free-for-all!
-- 
Larry W. Virden	 75046,606 (CIS)
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