Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!nrl-cmf!ames!oliveb!sun!pepper!cmcmanis From: cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: About Atari's, Mac's, and IBM's Message-ID: <49940@sun.uucp> Date: 18 Apr 88 21:56:51 GMT References: <5419@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> <226500010@trsvax> Sender: news@sun.uucp Reply-To: cmcmanis@sun.UUCP (Chuck McManis) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 34 In article <226500010@trsvax> johnm@trsvax.UUCP writes: >>How upgradable is it? >Be more specific... > >You can add a variety of memory boards, battery supported clocks, hard disks, >video and audio digitizers, and all of the usual stuff. Then there are the >more esoteric items like the accelorator board (not yet release) which will >increase the speed of ALL programs 45 to 85% or the liquid crystal 3d glasses. John, you could stand to be a bit more specific yourself. The 520 and 1040 ST series can be upgraded through hardware kludges much like the early Macs could be upgraded, neither have slots. The Mega doesn't have slots either but does have an expansion connector similar to that of the Amiga 1000 and Amiga 500. Second, be very VERY careful about making claims like "increase the speed of ALL programs 45 to 85%" because you know not what you speak. Even if you replace the CPU with a 68020 running at 16Mhz with 32 bit RAM you may not see your programs get much faster, why? Because the speed of a program is determined by the *system* speed, and not just the CPU clock. You will be lucky if your programs speed up 5 to 50%. If you want real fast programs redesign the *system*. >>Can it use a Paged Memory Managment Unit? >You mean like swapping memory out to disk? No, there is no micro with that >facility that I know of. Another two points, one I don't think he meant "can it swap" I believe he meant can it use a PMMU? And the answer is no, the Atart ST series cannot use a PMMU. Both the Mac II and any 80386 system can use a PMMU and in the case of the '386 have one built in. If one is looking for a paged MMU then one would be better off looking at 32 bit machines. --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.