Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!yale!wallman-george From: wallman-george@CS.YALE.EDU (Natuerlich!) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: (a) The Right to Flame & (b) WHAT ATARI NEEDS TO DO... Message-ID: <27969@yale-celray.yale.UUCP> Date: 26 Apr 88 21:13:35 GMT References: <203@eutrc3.UUCP> <1615@alliant.Alliant.COM> <1043@atari.UUCP> <303@bdt.UUCP> Sender: root@yale.UUCP Reply-To: wallman-george@CS.YALE.EDU (Natuerlich!) Organization: Natuerlich!'s Software Vault #5 -- Location Yale Lines: 84 Keywords: LENGTH! Summary: Natuerlich! oracles and throws a tantrum (a)>Well Mr Roy J. Good, I'll flame Atari any time I want, facts or no (a)>facts! [no :-)] Who are you to tell this net they need FACTS to flame? (a> (b)> [Stuff about the undesirability of the ST deleted] (a) Dave your are getting bitter and rather tiresome. I too am the not-so-proud owner of an ST, but believe me I can still control myself. I concur with you on one thing "Screw those ':-)s'" Either you mean it and write it, or you don't and don't. (b+a) Atari isn't much but still about the only bet I have as a supplier for a new computer. Specs : '30 or '386 power palenty of pixels and colors, UNIX or possibly ( zzz ) OS/2. Affordable! ------------------------ The "serious" machines ----------------------- Apple - Hell I don't have that kind of money. It's still gonna be some sort of Mac then I believe. Natuerlich! just says no. IBM/Clone - I wan't a computer not a desktop calculator! Case dismissed. To that day I have used Turbo-C with plenty of pleasure on an AT but else, the machine is just no fun. Its an INTEL chip, the software is boring. -----------------------The not so serious machines -------------------- Commodore - Are there any people left there who can design a good machine ? Will Commodore/Braunschweig put out an Amiga 3000 with a 80368 and optional 68000 to run old Amiga software (har har) ? We will see. Until now prospects are bleak. [Flaming Amiga-amigos please Email] Dream : 68030 or RISC + UNIX + sexy graphics. If anyone will build it Amiga/Commodore will. Prediction : They wont. Atari - The Abaq w/o MMU and UNIX ? Har Har. Thats gonna be the Atari videogame for the 90's. The hardware upto the MMU is the right thing, but then... Prediction: Development discontinued... a workstation company buys INMOS. The Transputer will become a Megahit in the work- station business. The 68030 ? Quite possibly. Not that I am particularly fond of yet another featureless Shivi-creation, but UNIX on top of it and I might be buying. Oddballs - Archimedes : nice CPU, the rest sounds like a loser. Sinclair ??? : I am not british. The big japanese unknown threat : Won't happen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For Natuerlich! the last thing he needs is a serious Atari going after the business market. That just raises prices gives him a featureless machine (-Shivi- : "i think a sprite for the mouse cursor, would really be a great idea" -Tramiel- : "Sshhhh! It's a business machine, we can't put sprites in it") and leaves me to buy : the Hyundai XL 11/c or some crap of that sort. Natuerlich! probably needs Atari to keep on hacking in a pleasurable environment through the 90s (I never started hacking on the ST). So please please keep those suckers at Atari alive, don't flame them to a crisp. Natuerlich! { If this as usual doesn't make sense to some people. Feel free to let me know although I won't care } ----------------------------------------------------------------- Loveletters & Hatemail to : wallman@yalecs (or is it cs.yale ?) Files to : WALLMANN@CTSTATEU (Bitnet) Talk to : wallman@yale-zoo-suned.arpa ----------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- Loveletters & Hatemail to : wallman@yalecs Files to : WALLMANN@CTSTATEU (Bitnet) Talk to : wallman@yale-zoo-suned.arpa --------------------------------------------------------------