Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!ncar!oddjob!uwvax!rutgers!iuvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucdcsp!gillies From: gillies@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Origins of the Mac Environment Message-ID: <76000195@uiucdcsp> Date: 24 Apr 88 16:44:00 GMT References: <2662@im4u.UUCP> Lines: 33 Nf-ID: #R:im4u.UUCP:2662:uiucdcsp:76000195:000:1438 Nf-From: uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu!gillies Apr 24 11:44:00 1988 Many of the advanced PC products aren't just copies of Xerox products, they're duplications of Xerox technology by former Xerox employees. When I was at Xerox, I heard (1) Some ex-Xerox employees helped in the design of the original macintosh. However, they made quite a few fundamental improvements (resources) on the way Xerox does things (2) Other ex-Xerox employees went to microsoft to write MS-Word. MS-Word is (supposedly) a very close ripoff of the first WYSWYG editor ever, called Bravo. It's been improved many times, because Bravo had bugs and actually had a *worse* user interface. (3) I have heard the same about MS-Windows. The design and implementation was supposedly aided by ex-Xerox employees. (4) Of course, the entire company called Adobe was formed by disgruntled Xerox employees when Xerox refused to release its printing technology (Interpress) on the world. Adobe invented Postscript for that purpose. Xerox is famous for developing great things, and squandering them. Their marketing, until recently, was completely inept. Also, much of the research they do is future-predicting. They give their researchers futuristic machines (for instance, personal DEC-10's 8 years ago, 25MIP multiprocessors today), and ask them to dream up new things to do with all those extra processor cycles.... Don Gillies {ihnp4!uiucdcs!gillies} U of Illinois {gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu} [An ex-Xerox employee]