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From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X-Windows price for A/UX
Message-ID: <4477@hoptoad.uucp>
Date: 24 Apr 88 08:14:07 GMT
References: <8532@apple.Apple.Com> <2855@emory.uucp> <8682@apple.Apple.Com> <285@piring.cwi.nl>
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Organization: Grasshopper Group in San Francisco
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[We are getting far afield from A/UX here; followups to comp.windows.misc.]

guido@cwi.nl (Guido van Rossum) wrote:
>                                                 X11 for my VaxStation2000
> running Ultrix cost only the price of the MIT X tape; is NeWS available
> for my machine?
I have seen VaxStation ifdef's in some of the NeWS sources, but don't know if
anyone sells NeWS for Vaxen.  Maybe Mt. Xinu?

I haven't kept track of who-all sells NeWS for what machines and at what
prices, but I just asked Sun for that info, and we'll see what they know.

>                  Can I then run NeWS clients on a Harris "tahoe"
> processor (where I am running most X clients)?
You get full client source with NeWS, so you can run the clients anywhere
that has a C compiler and TCP/IP.  Tahoes should be no problem.

> The big bucks you are mentioning probably refer to "support".
The 1988 HP T&M catalog says (pg 647) "The X Window product includes libraries
for compiling X applications (featuring graphics and XrLIB tools) under C,
and the following executable programs: PAM, hpterm, uwm, xwm, xterm, xclock."
That's all they say it includes; no sources, no support.  For $2100.

> X without support is as cheap as NeWS.
I'd be glad to sell you NeWS binaries without support for $2100, Guido...

> How good is NeWS supported for non-Sun machines?
NeWS support for Suns doesn't really exist; it's released without support,
until it gets into the mainline Unix release.  MacNews is a fully supported
product, and we will endeavor to fix bugs and problems as they are reported
to us.  Other vendors will have to speak for themselves.
-- 
John Gilmore  {sun,pacbell,uunet,pyramid,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu        gnu@toad.com
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