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From: bhoward@SOL.ENGIN.UMICH.EDU (Bruce Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X-Windows price for A/UX
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Date: 24 Apr 88 20:00:02 GMT
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	From @um.cc.umich.edu:xpert-request@athena.mit.edu Fri Apr 22 13:50:27 1988
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	Subject: Re: X-Windows price for A/UX
	
	jackie@Apple.COM (Hernan'Jackie' Macapanpan) wrote:
	>In my reply about X-Windows availability under A/UX, I had mentioned that it
	>would be available "in" the next release. X-windows under A/UX should be
	>available "at the time of" the next release of A/UX.
	 
	arnold@emory.uucp (Arnold D. Robbins {EUCC}) writes:
	> What the heck does this mean though? I would read it as "X-Windows will be
	> available as a separate product you pay additional money to get".
	 
	jackie@Apple.COM (Hernan'Jackie' Macapanpan) wrote:
	> I not sure what it means. I had to correct myself because I'm not sure how
	> X-Windows for A/UX will be available. In other words, it hasn't been decided
	> yet.
	 
	I think it's funny how the "public domain" X window system usually ends
	up costing big bucks from the vendors who support it, while the
	"proprietary" NeWS system costs $100 for Suns, $225 for Macs, etc.  HP
	charges $2100 for X windows!  (You also have to buy "Arpa networking
	services" for $7500.)  At least A/UX comes with free Berkeley
	networking, though you have to configure it in (it's there taking up
	disk space, but as we discovered, our A/UX application programs can't
	use it until we teach all our customers how to reconfigure their
	kernels).
	 
	Let's hope that the next A/UX release includes both X windows for free
	(since when was a Unix release free! :-) and Berkeley networking -- both
	ready to turn on and use.
	
That may be caused as much by demand as by anything else...who is
using NeWS anyways?  Last time I used NeWS, it was even slower on
a sun than X11R2 and that is hardly what I call an optimized product.

One thing is not clear to me; does vendor support of X-Windows imply
that optimizations of X will be available only through vendors?  Or
does "support" refer to packages supplied by vendors that run under
X?

				Bruce

				bhoward@caen.engin.umich.edu
				Computer Aided Engineering Network
				University of Michgian, Ann Arbor