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From: benoni@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X-Windows price for A/UX
Message-ID: <1887@ssc-vax.UUCP>
Date: 27 Apr 88 03:50:11 GMT
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In article <285@piring.cwi.nl>, guido@cwi.nl (Guido van Rossum) writes:
> In article <4466@hoptoad.uucp> gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) writes:
> >I think it's funny how the "public domain" X window system usually ends
> >up costing big bucks from the vendors who support it, while the
> >"proprietary" NeWS system costs $100 for Suns, $225 for Macs, etc.
> 
> I would like to know what's included in "etc".  X11 for my VaxStation2000
> running Ultrix cost only the price of the MIT X tape; 
which correct me if I am wrong is around $100-$150.  How good is it...?  All the
workstation companies seem to take the MIT X tapes and "civilize" the 
implementation for their machines....examples : Apollo, Sun and surprise (!) I
believe DEC (oh...right also IBM and HP)

>is NeWS available for my machine?  
I believe Sun actually sells some sort of uVax version...don't know the details.

>The big bucks you are mentioning probably refer to "support".  X without 
>support is as cheap as NeWS. 
But on a growing number of machines NeWS is bundled with the machine (i.e. :
No seperate price , like IBM's X version on the IBM RT-it ain't cheap)
A number of vendors are merging the X11 and NeWS environments and providing
the best of both worlds to their users (Silicon Graphics, SCO Xenix for PC,
Sun).  I believe the merged X11/NeWS environment is what Sun is suppose to
deliver to AT&T.
> How good is NeWS supported for non-Sun machines?
Without going into great detail you should know that NeWS is now part of Unix
from AT&T and as such it will be available for companies that license the
next release of Unix.  Further, Sun may have developed it, but it is now can
be seen on a number of non-Sun machines.  One such machine is the Silicon
Graphics 4D series...others include Apple MacOS Mac , Apple Unix Mac, Parallax,
WhiteChapel, Raster Technologies, Alliant...+