Xref: utzoo sci.psychology:236 sci.bio:1121 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!munnari!moncskermit!moncsbruce!mmcg From: mmcg@moncsbruce.oz (Mike Mc Gaughey) Newsgroups: sci.psychology,sci.bio Subject: Re: Intelligent Parrots, or Self-deception and Gullibility. Message-ID: <419@moncsbruce.oz> Date: 21 Apr 88 17:26:11 GMT References: <3339@drivax.UUCP> Organization: Comp Sci, Monash Uni, Australia Lines: 61 From article <3339@drivax.UUCP>, by braun@drivax.UUCP (Kral): > I agree somewhat. Did anyone see the PBS special on the brain broadcast a > couple of weeks ago? There was a great experiment where (gee, I wish I could > remember details, like *names*) brain tissue was excited to generate a current > between neurons. As the current was produced, the path between the neurons > (help me out with names here) became more efficient at carrying the current, > and the neurons changed to, all to facilitate 'message carrying' on that > 'path'. The implications relative to this topic are (in my opinion) this: There is a good book, by Valentino Braitenburg, called "Vehicles". Braitenburg is (was?) the director of the Max Plank institute. In the book, he conducts a thought experiment in which vehicles with two independantly driven wheels and a variety of sensors exhibit varying behaviours - e.g. if the vehicle is a rectangle - wheel A +--------------------+ | + sensor X | | | + sensor Y +--------------------+ wheel B we can imagine a variety of interconnections between A, B, X and Y. If, for instance, stimulation of Y induces extra speed in A, and the same for X and B, we have an aggressive vehicle that turns towards and runs at full speed into whatever excited it (a lightbulb destroyer?) That was chapter 1. Succeeding chapters introduce the concept of associative memory (using the mechanism described in the posting I have included), darwinian evolution, causative memory (is this the name?), higher faculties, instincts. By the end of ch. 15, we have a machine which, to all outward appearences, acts of its own volition, thinks, makes decisions, meditates, has instincts, and, in general behaves in a very complex manner comparable to many animals. The other half of the book (yes, there's more!) is a look at real life examples of the types of vehicles he has constructed in the first half. Have you ever wondered why a fly always lands on the dark spot on a wall (or flies out a window from a dark room into the light)? According to Braitenburg (I'm no biologist), the fly is organised just like our little vehicle above (that's why I chose this example). The X and Y sensors detect movement (i.e. the motion of contrasting features in the fly's field of vision). The wheels are, of course, the wings. When a fly enters a room, with a spot on one wall, the spot will be moving more in one of its eyes tham the other (remember, the fly is just a little buzz box - everything is buzzing). Because of some simple brain interconnections, the opposing wing beats just a little harder - so the fly orients towards the spot ... and finally lands on it. Neat, huh? This book is written in a very witty, lighthearted manner, by an acknowledged expert in the field (cybernetics). It was written mainly to demonstrate that things are always simpler than they seem, and is very readable. I don't have a copy of the book now (I read a friends), so I'm sorry I can't give any more details - but if you see it around, read it. Feel free to correct my misconceptions. .... Mike.