Xref: utzoo talk.bizarre:11749 misc.legal:4674 talk.politics.misc:9445 misc.jobs.misc:1673 sci.bio:1142 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!husc6!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!fluke!inc From: inc@tc.fluke.COM (Gary Benson) Newsgroups: talk.bizarre,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,misc.jobs.misc,sci.bio Subject: Re: Are Animals Patentable? Message-ID: <3585@fluke.COM> Date: 28 Apr 88 17:17:38 GMT References: <11285@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <473@goofy.megatest.UUCP> <2354@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Sender: news@tc.fluke.COM Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 44 In Article 5767 of misc.legal, dlleigh@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Darren L. Leigh) writes: >In article <473@goofy.megatest.UUCP> djones@megatest.UUCP (Dave Jones) writes: >>in article <11285@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>, lum@brachiosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Lum Johnson) says: >>> I suggest that those who didn't take Mary Shelley's _Frankenstein_ >>> seriously reconsider the lesson hidden under the story. >>> >>Ditto for _Bladerunner_. Get the movie on video tape. Great flick. >No, Bladerunner doesn't cut it unless you see it in 70mm. It loses >so much on video. Well, if you're going to see it for the plot and >not the special effects, the video might be OK, but that's probably >a waste of time. >I say, patent the mouse and don't get ulcers until our friends >the genetic engineers can actually *do* something scary. >Let's burn that bridge when we come to it. Darren, that reaction is just plain irresponsible and short-sighted. We are confronted today by the toughest moral issues in history as the result of the miracles of science, and you say we should wait to think about them until the bio-engineers actually *do* something? Look at what is happening, man! Every day we read about children being fought over by two "mothers" who both seem to have valid claims. But what about the child's welfare? The issues surrounding euthanasia and abortion are becoming incredibly complex. Now this mouse patenting thing may seem minor to you, but it is the beginning of what I think will be the ultimate test of humanity's ability to solve problems! If you think about it, we now must define human life, and in my opinion your posting is flippant and adds nothing to the discussion. Perhaps our lives today would be a bit more secure and peaceful if the scientists who developed the first nuclear weapons had been asking some of these questions. Once Pandora's box is opened, it is very tough to get it closed again. Wait until they *do* something? Get real. They *have* done something, and we had better start thinking ahead about *what* they have done, and what direction it is taking us. You know, the long view. -- Gary Benson -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-inc@tc.fluke.com_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Publication Services Ensign Benson, Space Cadet, Digital Circus, Sector R John Fluke Mfg. Co. Inc. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-