Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!accelerator.eng.ohio-state.edu!kaul From: kaul@accelerator.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rich Kaul) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: MSDOS SPICE Message-ID: <138@accelerator.eng.ohio-state.edu> Date: 22 Apr 88 17:32:54 GMT References: Reply-To: kaul@accelerator.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rich Kaul) Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering Lines: 26 Summary: There are some. At what cost? There is an MSDOS version of SPICE available. Just get the sources to SPICE from Berkeley and compile with the Lattice C compiler V3.1. I'm not sure if it works with later versions of the compiler and I strongly suspect that it won't run with any other C compiler for the PC. I really should try and see how it reacts to MS C... The bad point about this is that SPICE from Berkeley is going to cost you $150 for the Unix tape/10 AT floppies/25 PC floppies. And if you have to buy the compiler you're going to shell out more. Also, due to the glorious memory limitations of the PC you're going to have to select what parts of SPICE you can do without, unless you want to run out of memory after about two transistors. This version of SPICE is PD, so if you can find someone who has it, they can give it to you free. But keep in mind the sources run more than 5 meg. There are commercial versions of SPICE available for the PC. One I've used and liked is from MicroSim out in CA. It's nice, will run on PC/XT/ATs and gives pretty good results. The post processor gives good graphics for the output, but requires an 80x87 to run. Of course, running SPICE on a PC without an 80x87 is going to be cause to go and take a nap. If you contact MicroSim they may be willing to give you a demo version I they have. They charge about $500 for the simulator and $450 for the post processor last I heard. -- Rich Kaul kaul@icarus.eng.ohio-state.edu kaul@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu "You must realize that the computer has it in for you. The irrefutable proof of this is that the computer always does what you tell it to do."