Path: utzoo!hoptoad!amdcad!pyramid!decwrl!labrea!husc6!yale!Ram-Ashwin From: Ram-Ashwin@cs.yale.edu (Ashwin Ram) Newsgroups: alt.aquaria Subject: Re: what does carbon in a filter do? (AND) Re: "Brown and smelly" Message-ID: <28329@yale-celray.yale.UUCP> Date: 3 May 88 02:33:55 GMT References: <9178@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <4268@super.upenn.edu> Sender: root@yale.UUCP Reply-To: Ram-Ashwin@cs.yale.edu (Ashwin Ram) Distribution: usa Organization: Computer Science, Yale University, New Haven, CT 06520-2158 Lines: 49 In-reply-to: ephram@violet.berkeley.edu (AND) levine@eniac.seas.upenn.edu In article <9178@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, ephram@violet writes: > The store I used to go to placed nylon bags full of > carbon in the tank. When asked the proprietor would mumble something about > helps clean the ... I went to another store and heard much the same think > "It cleans the water". > > All of this has been very unsatisfactory, so I ask, What does charcoal do > in 1) a external box and floss type filter? and 2) in tandem with my U-G > filter? I'll take 2 first. If you mean the little filter plugs that go on the outlets at the top of the UG lift tubes, probably nothing except reduce the flow of water. But 1 is a different story: Activated carbon (or activated charcoal) is produced by the carbonisation of plant matter. It's good as a filter medium (if prepared properly) since it adsorbs coloids (e.g., proteins, dyes, organic acids, water-soluble drugs), and gases such as chlorine and ozone. Will not adsorb ammonia, nitrite, nitrate. (Adsorption is the adhesion of gases/dissolved substances to the surface of a solid body without a chemical reaction.) Activated carbon filters must be cleaned regularly. Spent filters begin to release poisonous fission products and ions which eventually begin to creep back into the aquarium. Also, spent filters contain oxidisable substances in high concentrations, which tend to remove the oxygen from the water. In article <4268@super.upenn.edu>, levine@eniac (Jonathan M. Levine) writes: > I have just a 10 gallon with a box filter...and I've been changing the floss > every time it gets brown and smelly. Is this not what I'm supposed to do? > How often is one supposed to change the charcoal/floss in a box filter? You can't regenerate activated carbon. How often you need to replace it depends on how many fish you have, how large (and dirty) the tank is, and so on. Once every 2-4 weeks is a good estimate. One way to test whether the adsortivity has reduced is to put a drop or two of a dye that the carbon would adsorb (such as methylene blue) right behind the filter cartridge. If you see blue trickling out with the water on the other side, you probably need to replace the carbon. As a rough guide, try turning the flow rate on maximum and check if all the water passes through the filter. If the filter is clogged, the water will accumulate on the input side and begin to trickle back into the tank without passing through the filter medium. (Depends on the design of your filter.) -- Ashwin. ARPA: Ram-Ashwin@cs.yale.edu UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,harvard,cmcl2,...}!yale!Ram-Ashwin BITNET: Ram@yalecs