Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!reading!onion!henry!jadwa From: jadwa@henry.cs.reading.ac.uk (James Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Free Will & Self Awareness Message-ID: <770@onion.cs.reading.ac.uk> Date: 3 May 88 08:45:49 GMT Sender: news@onion.cs.reading.ac.uk Reply-To: jadwa@henry.cs.reading.ac.uk (James Anderson) Distribution: comp Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Reading Univ., UK. Lines: 59 In article 1380 of comp.ai: bwk@mitre-bedford.ARPA (Barry W. Kort) says: > Suppose I were able to inculcate a Value System into silicon. > And in the event of a tie among competing choices, I use a > random mechanism to force a decision. Would the behavior of > my system be very much different from a sentient being with > free will? Well ... I take, "free will" to mean that an agent can choose what action to take despite the choices that other agents might make and despite unchosen events in the world. There are a number of corollaries to this definition. 1) I am a strong minded person, so I often exercise free will, but you can deny me free will, say, by killing me. 2a) You might exercise your free will by making an oath with yourself never to deny me free will, say, by never applying irresistible force to me. 2b) Making an oath does not deny your own free will. You can chose to break the oath. 3a) Random events in the choice mechanism deny free will to the extent that they prevent the agent from determining the outcome of a decision. 3b) I know of no way to discover, by observing the behaviour of an agent, that exception (3a) applies to it. So the answer to your question is "yes": I can not tell apart the behaviour of a random system and one with free will. A free-will system could, for example, chose to behave randomly. 4) An event which is not of any agents choosing might deny me free will. The event may be random, as in losing a game of Russian roulette, or deterministic, like being being drowned in a rising tide. So far, so good. But here comes the free will paradox, with knobs on! If the world is deterministic I am denied free will because I can not determine the outcome of a decision. On the other hand, if the world is random, I am denied free will because I can not determine the outcome of a decision. Either element, determinancy or randomness, denies me free will, so no mixture of a deterministic world or a non-deterministic world will allow me free will. I am going to think about that for a little while before I post again. James (JANET) James.Anderson@reading.ac.uk