Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!TAURUS.BITNET!shani From: shani@TAURUS.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: AIList V6 #86 - Philosophy Message-ID: <721@taurus.BITNET> Date: 4 May 88 07:19:52 GMT References: <368693.880430.MINSKY@AI.AI.MIT.EDU> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Organization: Tel-Aviv Univesity Math and CS school, Israel Lines: 15 In article <1579@pt.cs.cmu.edu>, yamauchi@speech2.cs.cmu.edu.BITNET writes: > Actually, I have read The Society of Mind, where Minsky writes: >[A quote of Minsky] > I would agree with this. In fact, unless one believes in some form of > supernatural forces, this seems like the only rational alternative. You are touching the very core of the problem. The point in which, this 'only random and determination exist' is getting into problems is the question of responseability i.e., if everything is pre-determened or random, how can you asume responsebility to what you are doing? and if responsability does not exist, the whole matter of free will and value system has no content, so, if free will and value system can be given to a machine, it is meaningless, and if it has meaning, it is depended on a third, irational factor (Free will), which cannot (Menwhile?) be given to a machine... O.S.